The soundtrack to many a freshly whipped buick ass

[disco stu]

LOL, like GNs even exist on the street. I don't see any Ferrari Enzos on the street that are worth my time, so that means they are all slow.

My point exactly. I see mustangs ALL THE TIME, and most are REALLY SLOW. The cars that are at least 2 seconds slower than my car sound like a race car. Don't know why I never see many FAST Mustangs on the street. They are all over the internet.
Mustangs outnumber Turbo Buicks 1 thousand to 1. And you guys can still barely hang. Mustangs are like tampons, every pu$$y has one. Evern Carrol Shelby called it a secretaries car. I think the 5.0 and newer stangs are more like chearleader cars. You need strokers, big cams, blowers, bottles etc, and guess what? I still got a Turbo 3.8.

If "normal thinking" = crying all over the internet everytime the Buicks get beat at Noble then no I don't understand it.

If "normal thinking" is going to the opponent board and gloating like you guys whipped the tar out of us when you won by 1, then I do understand it. You are a typical dumbass mustang driver.

I'm confused, is it against the rules to sandbag??

No, it is actually encouraged by the mustang camp, if you are afraid of a good drag race with a car that you are matched up with because you ran comparable times.
It ain't a money race son. You don't have to pick apart the rules to gain an advantage. There really aren't many rules left to speculation. There is nothing in them about sandbagging. But the fastest Mustang VS the fastest Buick down the ladder is pretty easy to understand, even for a Taco Bell employee like yourself. It is just plain 'ol chickensh!t to sandbag your way into racing a car that is not a good match. I ran what I ran in qualifying, and ran the same in elims. Ain't a big deal, ain't a money race. I still had a great time.

Keep riding Andrew's nutz. How did YOU run, homie?

 

[GNguy]

I think he is a typical mustang owner.......stupid :biggrin:

 

[disco stu]

I think quimby's like him just make most other Mustang owners look bad. Because there are so many like him. Not all of them have a false superiority complex.

 

[Andrew91GT]

He made some shakedown passes the week before and ran some high 5s or so and decided not to take it up there from what I understand. It had some problem with popping or some such. It's a fresh motor that cost god knows how much so I can't blame him. I'd have to work 120 hours a week at Taco Bell to afford something like that.

I actually didn't get any passes until the day of the shootout, and I did them at the KOTH race at denton. All I got there was a few 60' shutdown passes. Why would I waste $300 in diesel to drive up to Noble to do 60' hits? ****, why would you take a car capable of 190+ in the 1/4 mile to a 1/4 mile track first time out?

I went out the next day and went 5.76 @ 121 sputtering under boost... turns out my crank trigger sensor gap got much bigger, retarding the timing.

 

[Andrew91GT]

I can tell you another secret, mid 4's in the 1/8th is Tim Lynch territory

No, I've got no clue who Tim Lynch is.

Who do you think built my motor? (hint, check out the valvecovers)

I know more about this than you think. I built the car to run in KOTH and TTT5 Outlaw Limited Street.

 

[sixgun86gn]

Hehe...


Looks slow.













Nah really I am sure it will eventually be figured out and running good,but I bet it doesn't end up running any faster than Tom Maloufs car....and he has less in his.

Honestly Andrew,I have alot of respect for you and your car,but to me it always seems to go slower than it should with all you have in it.

 

[BillyRValentine]

No, I've got no clue who Tim Lynch is.

Who do you think built my motor? (hint, check out the valvecovers)

I know more about this than you think. I built the car to run in KOTH and TTT5 Outlaw Limited Street.

Two things chief, one- the ability to sling money at something doesn't make it the best thing since sliced bread. There are way more factors to 10.5 Outlaw racing that a fast horse. Two, you really need to learn a little humility. I see you didn't address the rest of the post. You should learn to give a little more respect than you do as popping off as you have is going to lead to you really getting hammered after getting your azz handed to you one day. You may know a little about it but I can tell by your arrogance that you haven't been doing this long enough to have had any real ups or downs. I've seen guys like you come and go time after time in this sport. Like anything else, time tells all thinigs. Better hope you don't ever get your azz handed to ya by one of the buzzin half dozen or you are never gonna hear the end of it. Good luck to ya, and I hope you do well.

Jim C.

 

[Andrew91GT]

Nah really I am sure it will eventually be figured out and running good,but I bet it doesn't end up running any faster than Tom Maloufs car....and he has less in his.

Honestly Andrew,I have alot of respect for you and your car,but to me it always seems to go slower than it should with all you have in it.

5.50's with the old T04 based 88mm wasn't too shabby...

So you want to put some money on my car running faster than Tom's? I also think he's got more money than you're aware of in that car. He's had his car out for what, a couple years? Give me two years to tune on this combo and it'll go faster than 5.1x's. Tom's car is VERY nice, but the potential of my combo is more than his with his 91mm turbo....

 

[Andrew91GT]

Two things chief, one- the ability to sling money at something doesn't make it the best thing since sliced bread. There are way more factors to 10.5 Outlaw racing that a fast horse. Two, you really need to learn a little humility. I see you didn't address the rest of the post. You should learn to give a little more respect than you do as popping off as you have is going to lead to you really getting hammered after getting your azz handed to you one day. You may know a little about it but I can tell by your arrogance that you haven't been doing this long enough to have had any real ups or downs. I've seen guys like you come and go time after time in this sport. Like anything else, time tells all thinigs. Better hope you don't ever get your azz handed to ya by one of the buzzin half dozen or you are never gonna hear the end of it. Good luck to ya, and I hope you do well.

Jim C.

I've been racing for 4 years.... I tend to optimize things fairly well. My old YS-trim car went 9.0's when the fastest guys were running 8.9's with it. It will take time, no doubt, but I've done my research on this setup.

 

[blackshoebox]

For all the buick guys..

..arguing with these mustake guys is a waste of time. IF the buicks only lost the shootout by one race..that is a pretty good showing, considering all the disadvantages of running a V6 in heads up racing...

The results speak for themselves.

 

[sixgun86gn]

5.50's with the old T04 based 88mm wasn't too shabby...

So you want to put some money on my car running faster than Tom's? I also think he's got more money than you're aware of in that car. He's had his car out for what, a couple years? Give me two years to tune on this combo and it'll go faster than 5.1x's. Tom's car is VERY nice, but the potential of my combo is more than his with his 91mm turbo....

You're right 5.50s weren't too shabby,but IMHO could've been better if you would have given it a little more time.I know the chassis needed some work,which it seems you have taken care of that.

But...keep in mind that Tom's car is still air/air intercooled,and really not all that exotic.I mean its not like he just built it from parts he had lying around,but they are not all that special either.You know what I mean.

BTW he's running those 5.1x's on less boost than he used to need for 5.2x's,so its not like he doesn't still have some room for improvement.

Again Andrew,your car and yourself get alot of my respect,please don't take it the wrong way.You have always been real cool the few times i have run into you at the track.I know that you were just getting the party started up in here,but these other guy's don't know you or the car.They don't understand that you aren't cocky,just a smart ass.

 

[Andrew91GT]

You're right 5.50s weren't too shabby,but IMHO could've been better if you would have given it a little more time.I know the chassis needed some work,which it seems you have taken care of that.

But...keep in mind that Tom's car is still air/air intercooled,and really not all that exotic.I mean its not like he just built it from parts he had lying around,but they are not all that special either.You know what I mean.

BTW he's running those 5.1x's on less boost than he used to need for 5.2x's,so its not like he doesn't still have some room for improvement.

Again Andrew,your car and yourself get alot of my respect,please don't take it the wrong way.You have always been real cool the few times i have run into you at the track.I know that you were just getting the party started up in here,but these other guy's don't know you or the car.They don't understand that you aren't cocky,just a smart ass.

The car went 5.59 @ 129.9 last night shortshifting on 10 psi with a wimpy launch and no timing in the car... still think I can't run better than a 5.1?

 

[salvageV6]

Didn't show up, WHAT A TOOL!!!!!

Dood, you EARNED it.

 

[RobsIron]

If he would stop 'showin up' on this thread..he mighta' made the race.

 

[BillyRValentine]

The car went 5.59 @ 129.9 last night shortshifting on 10 psi with a wimpy launch and no timing in the car... still think I can't run better than a 5.1?

Don't know enough about the car (Chassis, setup, tune; etc.) to say that but I will say that a 4-sec pass takes allot. 5.50's to 4.90's-5.0's is a leap. Still 6-tenths to whittle out their chief, after the smack talkin in here you may want to really dig in and get the setup and tune stuck to it. You can be fairly sure that all eyes are a-watchin. Hope ya get there and good luck to ya.

Jim C.

 

[Andrew91GT]

Don't know enough about the car (Chassis, setup, tune; etc.) to say that but I will say that a 4-sec pass takes allot. 5.50's to 4.90's-5.0's is a leap. Still 6-tenths to whittle out their chief, after the smack talkin in here you may want to really dig in and get the setup and tune stuck to it. You can be fairly sure that all eyes are a-watchin. Hope ya get there and good luck to ya.

Jim C.

It's a 25.5 chassis, ladder bar setup with a 31 x 10.5W tire. Koni adjustables on the front and strange double adjustable shocks in the back... coilovers at all 4 corners.

75" wheeliebars. Tune is VERY conservative... 22 degrees timing, 50 degree ACTs, low 11's/high 10's A/F. 10 psi, shifting at 7000 rpm when shift point should be 8200-8500 rpm per Steve Petty.

 

[BillyRValentine]

It's a 25.5 chassis, ladder bar setup with a 31 x 10.5W tire. Koni adjustables on the front and strange double adjustable shocks in the back... coilovers at all 4 corners.

75" wheeliebars. Tune is VERY conservative... 22 degrees timing, 50 degree ACTs, low 11's/high 10's A/F. 10 psi, shifting at 7000 rpm when shift point should be 8200-8500 rpm per Steve Petty.

Sounds like a tight setup. I am guessing you are using a glide for the tranny to settle it down with those ladder bars. Who is doing the tuning? With some timing and boost on the high end it ought to get on down. No doubt Petty knows how to build some potent powerplants. Take care.

Jim C.

 

[Big Stu]

The car went 5.59 @ 129.9 last night shortshifting on 10 psi with a wimpy launch and no timing in the car... still think I can't run better than a 5.1?

Get it tuned and the suspension sorted out and run the 4.8? the car should. Now get to work!

 

[sixgun86gn]

The car went 5.59 @ 129.9 last night shortshifting on 10 psi with a wimpy launch and no timing in the car... still think I can't run better than a 5.1?

Yeah yeah yeah...its always something with you mustang boys ain't it.

Seriously,you have enough car for 4's,but still 5.0 is a long way from 5.6 in reality.Maybe you should have Bill Duke tune it up for you.He did Grant's.

There isn't too much time left in the season,but you might make it before the year ends.

 

[Andrew91GT]

Sounds like a tight setup. I am guessing you are using a glide for the tranny to settle it down with those ladder bars. Who is doing the tuning? With some timing and boost on the high end it ought to get on down. No doubt Petty knows how to build some potent powerplants. Take care.
Jim C.

It's got the same transmission in it that's in Lynch's car (Neal racing top of the line glide) with a bolt together Neal Chance converter (same as in Lynch's single turbo setup per Marty Chance).

I'm trying to do the tuning myself... Bill Duke would greatly shorten the learning curve here but I want the satisfaction of doing it myself. I did ok on my last setup!
If I can't do it, I'll get Bill Duke involved. He's worked wonders for several racers here in the DFW area (Grant, Tom, Josh, etc.).

I tend to be a little conservative with the tuneup because I don't have the cash sitting around for a new shortblock.... and getting too aggressive can be a bit expensive! lol

sixgun86gn: I'm not in any hurry as I'm still getting seat time. Seeing C wreck at redline last saturday reinforced that I need to get some more seat time before going fast.

I just want to be somewhat competitive next year.