Originally posted by Robert Kastle
I believe even a poorly placed shot with the cassull or 45Long Colt+P will stop a determined attacker better than a well place 9mm,,,,, short of a head shot. The CASSULL has the velocity that the 45ACP does not. The CASSULL rounds are kind of tough for a fallow up but the 45Long Colt+Ps are great. I do believe there is such a thing as knock down and I think a 45 caliber gun has more than a 9mm. I've not been knocked down by a baseball but I have by a medicine ball. I do not carry the cassull or any gun for self defense. I just like to blow things up.
Just my 2 cents. I am no expert. Just someone that enjoys target shooting.
Even rifles and shotguns have failed to stop bad guys on occasion. That being the case, ANY handgun, regardless of caliber, can and will fail. Handguns are a compromise. They are hole punchers, nothing more. They do not have the velocity, not even the 454 Casull (note the correct spelling), which I own and use to hunt big game with, to guarantee an instant drop.
Every deer season there are instances where 150 pound deer are hit perfectly by guys using centerfire rifles like the 308 and 30-06. However, even though these deer are hit in the vitals with rifles that make FAR more power than even the 454, still can run 100 yards or more before dying. That being the case, do you really think a .45acp is a "stopper" or stops any better than a good 9mm JHP? Handgun cartridges are all too close in power (yes, again, even the 454) to instantly drop a human in their tracts, except for a CNS (central nervous shot). Again, I urge you guys to read the link from ammolab.com. It's a FAQ section that deals with myths like "stopping power", etc.
The following is an excerpt from an article that explains why firearms fail, even the big ones, at times when trying to stop a determined attacker. Source is here.
This is a true story that occured in NJ.
As to "big hole" failures, in the People's Republic of NJ there was an incident awhile back that shook a lot of folks. A drugged up goblin was shot through the back door and seat of a van he was driving with a 12ga slug. He exited the van with an inch-and-a half hole blown clear through his chest. (Yes, Virginia, daylight was visible!) He ran about 25 yards firing his pistol at his pursuers until he collapsed. (And you thought you were well armed with your 9mm / .357 / 10mm / .45, eh?) Check the wound profiles above for the 12ga slug and compare it with a pistol bullet profile. Then ask yourself if you will ever feel well armed ever again. Under those circumstances a tactical nuke might have been needed to provide the desired WTI.
The bottomline is as long as there is oxygen in the brain, which there is for up to 15 seconds after someone has been shot even with a direct bullet through the heart, he or she will continue to live. 15 seconds is a very long time when that person is shooting at you. The fact is, pistol calibers are piss-poor at incapacitating humans. A .45 is down-right puny when compared to a 1 ounce, .72 caliber 12 gauge slug that the above mention bad guy took to his chest. If he didn't stop on the spot by the slug, do you really think a .45 caliber pistol would have stopped him?
Can't say it enough, carry what you shoot best and pray you never have to use it.