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Carfax has a strong policy. They buyback you car, or something like that if they are wrong. They would be out of business if they sucked that bad.
 
I've bought and sold a lot of totals (flood, theft, collision) and Carfax picks them all up. For what it costs it's worth running the VIN just to be sure.

Jim
 
turbo2nr is in the right 150%.Time is $$$ and if id have driven 1100 miles to find somthing that grossly misrepresented,there would be hell to pay!!
 
:mad: fellow buick owner trying to screw another.....nothing makes me more angry :mad:

I am currently investigating this deal with DMV and the state of MO and TX. It is starting to look very much in my favor. Anyone who thinks I am wrong for being mad is mentaly challenged.

I work with my entire family everyday, thnks for your concern ;)
 
turbo2nr said:
Carfax has a strong policy. They buyback you car, or something like that if they are wrong. They would be out of business if they sucked that bad.


Ya, OK, whatever. If you want to believe in their data and policies, fine. You can deal with their "data".
 
For your information, CARFAX sucks !

I am a car dealer and none of the auctions nation wide rely on their data. They all use and go by AUTOCHECK for accurate information.

As for the mileage information on a car there are many ways to verify it's legitimacy.
1-DMV
2-Dealer service records
3-Warantee records
4-Maintanance records
5-Insurance companies
6-State inspection records
7-Tire company records
8-Prior owners
ETC.,ETC.,ETC.

Carfax will only back information supplied to them by the source they get it from....if the information is wrong and that's how it was sourced to Carfax....TUFF $HIT !!!

I have seen every kind of mistake on titles you could imagine, and I've seen my share of alterations also.

My suggestion to anyone buying a car on E-BAY.......DON'T !!!
Why the hell anyone would bid on something that's a days drive away from them is beyond me !
Shop in your own area where you can....LOOK, TOUCH, SMELL and FEEL the damn car. You also have easy access to information in your own state.

Deals that appear to good to be true are just that......USE THIS EXPERIENCE AS A LESSON LEARNED. Move on.

MOON'
 
I did not use the carfax. I used another company similar. I saw the car with my own two eyes. I have researched the DMV records and the state of MO. I am 100% correct on this. Thanks for your help.
 
So the od mileage is false, that bites! :mad:
 
turbo2nr said:
I did not use the carfax. I used another company similar. I saw the car with my own two eyes. I have researched the DMV records and the state of MO. I am 100% correct on this. Thanks for your help.

If you don't use CARFAX then why did you start this thread: USE CARFAX!! Do not trust people!
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It's the same thing. Most people just know the carfax name. I used AutoCheck, from Experian Automotive. It is used thru Ebay. I don't know if you can use it without going thru Ebay. I'm a newbie to this car checking stuff. Give me a break guy.
 
I just want to say that I was at Dan's home yesterday and saw the car that is being talked about here. I don't know Dan, but this car did not look bad at all. The car has 54K miles, not 54. Minor imperfections have to be expected on any car.
 
The car has well over 150,000 miles. I can prove it, and it looks like it, and it drives like it. Yes, it has a nice paint job, that's about it. Are you a turbo-regal expert? Have you ever owned a TR?? Did you bother looking inside?? :confused:
 
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Report Run Date: Sat Jul 01 19:15:59 EDT 2006
Vehicle Description: 1G4GJ1179HP437457
TitleCheck: No Record Found
Problem Check: No Record Found
Odometer Check: Record(s) Found
Vehicle Information: Record(s) Found
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VIN: 1G4GJ1179HP437457
Year: 1987
Make: Buick
Model: Regal
Style/Body: 2 Door Unknown Style 4-6 Passengers
Engine: 6-FI-3.8L-T/C
Country of Assembly: United States



Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History



Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1987 Buick Regal (1G4GJ1179HP437457) show no significant Title events. When found, events often indicate past automotive damage or warnings associated with the vehicle title.


Problems Checked Results Found
Abandoned No Abandoned Record Found
Damaged No Damaged Record Found
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Record Found
Grey Market No Grey Market Record Found
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Record Found
Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Record Found
Junk No Junk Record Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Found
Salvage No Salvage Record Found



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Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1987 Buick Regal (1G4GJ1179HP437457) shows no historical events that indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate previous car damage, theft, or other significant problem.


Problems Checked Results Found
NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Record Found
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Record Found
Major Damage Incident No Major Damage Record Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record Found
Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Record Found
Recycled No Recycled Record Found
Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Record Found
Water Damage No Water Damage Record Found



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A possible odometer rollback/rollover detected! We determine odometer rollbacks on your 1987 Buick Regal (1G4GJ1179HP437457) by searching for records that indicate an odometer reading less than a previously reported value.


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Fri Aug 20 00:00:00 EDT 1993 127235
Wed Nov 17 00:00:00 EST 2004 53301 Possible Odometer Rollback/Rollover




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Information Found! AutoCheck found additional information on this vehicle. These records will provide you with more past history for this 1987 Buick Regal (1G4GJ1179HP437457).


Problems Checked Results Found
Accident Data Accident Data Record(s) Found
Corrected Title No Corrected Title Record Found
Driver Education No Driver Education Record Found
Duplicate Title Duplicate Title Record(s) Found
Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Record Found
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Record Found
Lease No Lease Record Found
Lien No Lien Record Found
Livery Use No Livery Use Record Found
Government Use No Government Use Record Found
Police Use No Police Use Record Found
Fleet No Fleet Record Found
Fleet and/or Rental No Fleet and/or Rental Record Found
Rental No Rental Record Found
Fleet and/or Lease No Fleet and/or Lease Record Found
Repossessed No Repossessed Record Found
Storm Area Registration/Title No Storm Area Registration/Title Indicated
Taxi Use No Taxi Use Record Found
Theft No Theft Record Found



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Report Run Date: Sat Jul 01 19:15:59 EDT 2006
VIN: 1G4GJ1179HP437457 1987 Buick Regal




Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
Fri Aug 20 00:00:00 EDT 1993 BLUE SPRINGS, MO 127235 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
Tue Jul 02 00:00:00 EDT 1996 BLUE SPRINGS, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Mon Jul 15 00:00:00 EDT 1996 MO State Agency LEFT FRONT IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:0960703272)
Fri Jun 20 00:00:00 EDT 1997 BLUE SPRINGS, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Thu Aug 06 00:00:00 EDT 1998 BLUE SPRINGS, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Mon Aug 30 00:00:00 EDT 1999 BULVERDE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Thu Sep 09 00:00:00 EDT 1999 TX Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:04620036400153542)
Thu Sep 09 00:00:00 EDT 1999 BULVERDE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:04620036400153542)
Tue Aug 01 00:00:00 EDT 2000 BULVERDE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Tue Oct 01 00:00:00 EDT 2002 HIGH RIDGE, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:PG344079)
Tue Oct 01 00:00:00 EDT 2002 HIGH RIDGE, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. DUPLICATE TITLE
Mon Nov 04 00:00:00 EST 2002 PACIFIC, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:PG362186)
Mon Nov 04 00:00:00 EST 2002 PACIFIC, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
Wed Nov 17 00:00:00 EST 2004 EASTLAKE, OH 53301 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:4301362547)
Fri Apr 22 00:00:00 EDT 2005 EASTLAKE, OH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Tue Apr 25 00:00:00 EDT 2006 EASTLAKE, OH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL



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I don't care if the paint looks good!!! The car is mis-represented!! What part of that do you not understand you moron.
 
Feel free to check with DMV or the state of MO or TX.

Everything has been replaced on the car, or still needs to be replaced.

Did you drive the car?? It drives like a POS!!! That's because it has AT LEAST 150,000 miles, maybe 250,000.

Did you see the seat-belts or the anything inside.
 
hey, heres a thought, coming from an 18 year old punk ass kid.. GROW UP! So you feel the car was misrepresented, big deal! so you lost 2 days of your god like life.. cry a river about it, but dont wish death on someone. HE DIDNT FORCE YOU TO COME! you chose to drive that far without finding someone on this board in his area to check it out for you. Numerous people on v8buick have seen the car and think its a very nice car..which makes me believe you are exaggerating about a lot.. So i think the best idea for you is to go cry in private.. nobody did anything wrong but you.. NEVER go to just LOOK at a car 1100 miles away without having a friend (or stranger) in the area look first! thats whats so good about boards like this.. Name calling is elementary.. wishing death on someone is plain asinine.. Nobody made your dad come with you, either. so i say, tough cookies, man up and deal with it.. i promise youll get over it!

Josh
 
It is illegal to sell a car trying to pass it as a low milage car when it's not. I did see a board member give it thumbs up. That's why I was interested. I will post plenty of info when it comes my way. The car was wrecked. The milage was completly wrong. Maybe when you grow up and have kids and own a business, you'll see how important two days can be. I have very very little spare time. I can't believe you guys are on his side. He tried to scam!
What part of that do you not understand!!! The car drove like chit! I've said over and over that the car looks good at first. It has a decent paint job, but it is not worth $15,000!! Are you crazy or something?? This guy was doing something very illegal, and totally lied to me and my dad, and wasted my time you idiot. :mad:
 
Tell Dan to bring the car to Salem. I'd love to show everybody what I'm talking about. So what if people think it looks good. It does look good at first. Then drive, then poke around in it. It is a high milage car with most everything replaced. I know what the heck I'm talking about here. Do you?
 
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