What is it worth? Low mile Monte SS

[TURBOGTA1]

Found an 86 Monte SS hard-top with 1,900 original miles
in showroom (as-new) condition.
Totally untouched and original.
Any ideas what its worth!!!!
Mike

 

[theCATman]

When I had my Olds Cutlass appraised, the guy who did the appraisal is an avid car collector. He had an '88 SS in his "showroom" with less than 100 miles on it for sale.

This was 4 years ago & he wanted $25,000 for it. Now, keep in mind this was the last year for the Monte SS RWD version & 4 years ago.

IMO.... a mint '86 SS today.... I don't think somewhere in the $20,000 range is out of line

 

[GNBRETT]

$12-13k if it's blue or white. $10-12k if it's black.

 

[theCATman]

$12-13k if it's blue or white. $10-12k if it's black.

I hope you're joking.... what does color have to do with it? They were offered in more than three color choices.

Furthermore, a 1,900 mile original worth less than new price? Right....

 

[TURBOGTA1]

$12-13k if it's blue or white. $10-12k if it's black.

You think that little???
I thought it was worth a little more than that.
I know drive-train wise, you cant compare the turbo motor to the slug 305,
but the STUPID money guys think the Turbo Buick's are worth today kinda says a 1,900 mile new SS has to be worth more than $12k.
Guy wants $15k for the car.
I figure, it doesn't have to be a fast car, for I have the ZO6 for that,
I want a mint G-body car, and no way will I pay the outrageous price (50% premium jump in 4 years) for a turbo car.
I guess I need to do some real good research on this before I consider.
Thanks for your input.

 

[gculver]

A cars real value is what an individual is willing to pay at a given time..That being said..15K for a pristine 86 SS sounds fair. If kept nice and crisp with low mileage, i don't think you would lose money down the road.JMO

GC

 

[Grumpy]

$15k doesn't sound that bad a deal for the mileage

 

[GNBRETT]

I hope you're joking.... what does color have to do with it? They were offered in more than three color choices.

Furthermore, a 1,900 mile original worth less than new price? Right....

Not joking at all. They simply are not now and never were a desirable car. Just cause it has low miles does not make it desirable today.

It was never an attractive car and a pig to boot with a junk motor. Color has a lot to do with it. In Black it was simply ugly and considered the GN's red headed step child.

Blue and white were the better looking colors simply because it resembled a GN even less. Most who could choose would opt for a GN if they could afford it back then.

What would make you think that is any different now 23 years later when GN's are readily available in excellent condition for $12-15k these days?

The only ones that seem to pull any money are the coupes since there were like 4000 of em and they are even uglier.

Im sure there is someone who will pay good money for a Monte SS but that would be a very small number of people when GN's can be had for peanuts these days.

 

[Grumpy]

Brett there are a LOT of Monte guys out there !! They have never had a Buick and think to themselves the MC is a lot better looking car.. Different strokes for different folks

 

[JOHNDEEREGN]

To me, 12k. to some 15k or more. Wait, I had a SS Aerocoupe, dont want another one

 

[blackmonte]

I agree 15-20k for a brand new muscle car , I sold a 1986 Black monte SS rusted and a smashed rocker with 68,000 miles for $5500. There not super fast bust still very nice cars.Good luck on your buy, I like all G-bodies

 

[theCATman]

Not joking at all. They simply are not now and never were a desirable car. Just cause it has low miles does not make it desirable today.

It was never an attractive car and a pig to boot with a junk motor. Color has a lot to do with it. In Black it was simply ugly and considered the GN's red headed step child.

Blue and white were the better looking colors simply because it resembled a GN even less. Most who could choose would opt for a GN if they could afford it back then.

What would make you think that is any different now 23 years later when GN's are readily available in excellent condition for $12-15k these days?

The only ones that seem to pull any money are the coupes since there were like 4000 of em and they are even uglier.

Im sure there is someone who will pay good money for a Monte SS but that would be a very small number of people when GN's can be had for peanuts these days.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Brett.

The way I see it is..... the car is still a "special" model of a plain 'ol grocery getter of the 80's, just like our beloved TRs.

GN's, T-Types, turbo-T's WE4's, etc. are nothing more than a glorified Regal. The same Regal 99% of the buyers who bought them didn't give two $hits about. They got driven into the ground & then left to rot away in a junkyard.

Same goes for the SS Monte Carlos, Hurst/Olds,442, & 2+2. All special models of plain jane cars of that era.

Don't get me wrong, I love the TR's the best of all the special models, but I personally believe that all the special G-Body models deserve the same amount of respect when it comes down to collecting them, restoring them & preserving them as part of American Muscle Car history.

I think to say that this particular car is worth only $12,000 is an insult to the seller & to the collector car community. Just because "the economy" is in the $hitter right now doesn't mean that a piece of automobile history should be treated as a piece of crap also and say it should be bought for pennies on the dollar. I'm so damn sick of hearing people use the economy as an excuse to try & steal something for nothing from a seller.

P.S. Not trying to knock your dick in the dirt Brett, but the Blue color was dropped after '84. This does make the '83-'84 Blue SS more desirable.

Amen, rant done.

 

[SS/GN]

Well

I had an 86 Monte SS 25000 miles original paint and real clean.You could eat off the undercarriage.It had a 9-1 sb,200r4 and a 8.5 rear.The car ran 12.30 at 110 and yes I spanked a few GN.s.Don.t get me wrong I love my Buicks but the SS was never known to be quick and was under rated as a street car.I sold the car for $20,ooo last Feb.To each his own but the SS had a more modern styling than the regal.I ended up Buying a Limited and I love the car but I did own the ss for 22 years

Kevin

 

[slowcar]

$15k seems reasonable

I do not like them ...but they r classics and the 80's are coming back with bang....

BUT IT WAS NOT A MUSCLE CAR.....

The GN was Hi-Tech...advanced for its time...SPOKE 80's in every aspect...when Microsoft was just in the beginning the GN said alot for what a car could do with technology..computers and engineering..

THE MONTY was a joke.....but it was an 80's styled car and it is cool to see one mint riding around...

Anybody who at the time opted for a Monte should of bought a SD Trans Am or even a 1969 Z28....now those cars are worth good money...and they were real muscle cars of past era...as a GN was a muscle car of that current era

 

[GNBRETT]

P.S. Not trying to knock your dick in the dirt Brett, but the Blue color was dropped after '84. This does make the '83-'84 Blue SS more desirable.

Amen, rant done.

I'm aware of what years the colors were available and to me the Blue SS was the only one I cared for really which is why I own a blue T. 27O or U or something paint code. I forget.

Cars body looks the same either way. Other then the TH-350 I would choose the 83 because of the blue interior not available on newer models.

I don't see your comparison with the TR tho. A Regal yes. But with a few thousand dollars it will run in the 11's. Monte SS cant make that claim so thats apples to oranges as far as I am concerned. No Moonroofs available either. Kinda partial to those. The Monte was slow junk and not any type of muscle car imo which means it's not worth much more then any other low mile car back in the 80's. A GN was light years ahead in technology and no comparison.

 

[SS/GN]

I'm aware of what years the colors were available and to me the Blue SS was the only one I cared for really which is why I own a blue T. 27O or U or something paint code. I forget.

Cars body looks the same either way. Other then the TH-350 I would choose the 83 because of the blue interior not available on newer models.

I don't see your comparison with the TR tho. A Regal yes. But with a few thousand dollars it will run in the 11's. Monte SS cant make that claim so thats apples to oranges as far as I am concerned. No Moonroofs available either. Kinda partial to those. The Monte was slow junk and not any type of muscle car imo which means it's not worth much more then any other low mile car back in the 80's. A GN was light years ahead in technology and no comparison.

You have many valid points that cannot be debated but my ss was almost $6000 cheaper than my GN new to new the SS went 15.80 stock and my GN went 14.60 stock nothing done.Back to the original post it is worth what you are willing to pay.It is easier to find a Mint GN than a Mint SS,seems more people put GNs in bubles and they barely fetch their original sticker price.

Kevon

 

[GNBRETT]

You have many valid points that cannot be debated but my ss was almost $6000 cheaper than my GN new to new the SS went 15.80 stock and my GN went 14.60 stock nothing done.Back to the original post it is worth what you are willing to pay.It is easier to find a Mint GN than a Mint SS,seems more people put GNs in bubles and they barely fetch their original sticker price.

Kevon

Yea, the GN was considerably more expensive I agree. $6k back in the early to mid 80's was a chitload of money back then. I don't know what the comparison would be today but it would likely be like paying another $10k if not more by todays standards.

To me it's not that the Monte was almost a second and a half slower but the fact that it just doesn't take much money to make a TR really fast these days. I new Z06 will go low 11's. Going low 11's with a TR is pretty standard these days with bolt ons. Going low 11's with a Monte SS 305 is another story all together.

The primary reason you can find many more TR's for sale in mint condition is because not only did they cost a chit load more new but have held their value considerably better over the years. Your not gonna see Horsepower TV putting on a whole show on Monte SS's.

If a really cherry GN can be had for $18-20k these days then a really cherry Monte SS can't or shouldn't imo pull more then $12-13k at best considering they were $6k less new over the GN and never considered a true muscle car. The GN will always be more desirable over any G-Body including T-Types, Turbo T's, WH1, etc...

 

[turbo nasty]

Its the last year of the Gbody, the SS version and low mile. Those are the only things that pull the money.
As far as performance wise..weak rear, decent trans(VB good, GN servo better), weak engine.

Rest is the same as ours IMO

15-20k sounds about right if its cherry no faded weather stripping, all tags on components, no mice damage, etc

 

[SS/GN]

Brett I agree and that is the reason I sold the ss I like the technology in the buick.The GN will always be worth more and the most important thing is they are easier to sell:wink:.However if I build another SS for bracket racing,it will be a 454 sbc 10-1 with q-jet,th350,8.5 and HR suspension.Simple and cheap and easier to be consistant.I am looking at doing some bracket racing in the next few years and the GN is not as consistant.


Kevin

 

[GNBRETT]

Brett I agree and that is the reason I sold the ss I like the technology in the buick.The GN will always be worth more and the most important thing is they are easier to sell:wink:.However if I build another SS for bracket racing,it will be a 454 sbc 10-1 with q-jet,th350,8.5 and HR suspension.Simple and cheap and easier to be consistant.I am looking at doing some bracket racing in the next few years and the GN is not as consistant.


Kevin

Oh that's not true! They are consistant, a consistant money pit!:biggrin: