Why are MOPARS so Pricey?

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Claude, that's a nice car i'll be looking out for it at the Nats for sure!
Coach, I like the super Stock Mopars more than any other era, they have a niche following over here. Sadly, after export/import costs and taxes they are prohibitive to the more modest bank account on this side of the pond:eek:
Good to recognise other good cars on this site!

A couple of UK based Mopars
Mopar Muscle Association UK :: Garage

and

Mopar Muscle Association UK :: Garage
 
Well you must be pretty young to state they were not that great back inthe day.
Coach

Yup 51 years young :rolleyes:

They are all good when new, but mopars fell by the wayside way faster than GM cars.

The early 68 to 74s mopars were tin cans.. in my thoughts they were the BOTTOM of the barrel. They did not last but a few years after they were born.

I drove a 4 speed 440 charger. Felt like a battleship on rolling seas
I drove in Hemi polara. Great pull! Still tin can ride
I had a 63 polara I was amazed that it last till 1979. Only because an elder driver had it in his garage.

Yeah I will GIVE thier ENGINES an OK as strong but the rest of the body/interior suked.

When I use to watch street racing the best cars seemed to be MOPARS and PONTIACS that were the best stoplight to stoplight racers
 
I remember when you were 16 you had a hardon for that white GTX on Windmill Lane. Glad you ended up with the 65 GTO instead.
 
I remember when you were 16 you had a hardon for that white GTX on Windmill Lane. Glad you ended up with the 65 GTO instead.


Correct you know why it ALWAYS sat in the driveway. It was a HUNK of MOPAR JUNK.. Guess by 1976 the Junk Yard got it
 
A good friend of my dad's was/is a huge Mustang guy. He always had a mustang, and in '68 my dad was a senior in high school driving a dark green fastback just like Steve McQueen. After my dad got home from Vietnam, Gary (his Discustang buddy) had traded off a '69 Mach 1 for a Gold Duster. To this day he still cusses every pentastar powered car that drives down the road. I guess Gary had this Gold Duster for 6 months and traded it off for a LeMans just to get rid of the Plymouth, LOL!!

My dad grew up driving F*rds, and when I was a kid he had a pretty sweet '74 Chevy truck w/a 454. Somewhere along the line he went to Dodge, and never looked back. My old man has been driving Dodge trucks most of my life, but I've got a feeling his next one will be a Super Duty or a 2500 HD.

Here's some pic's of my favorite Mopars once owned:





 
Years ago I has a 1970 Charger R/T, 440 magnum, Dana differential, pistol grip 4 spd. original wheels, original oval tipped exhaust. Traded it for a 77 Kawasaki 1000:rolleyes: Then traded the Kaw for a 68 Dodge Dart GTS 383 magnum. Back then these cars were dime a dozen. Who knew:frown:
 
Mopars were the king of the 60's and early 70's. I had the pleasure of owning countless 65-70 B-bodies. From the quiet smooth running early 318 with the tiny carburetor to 440 six packs, I never got to own a Hemi but did get to drive a 68 Cuda with a Hemi in it. You've never felt power like a Hemi or a high compression Max wedge with a stick, they're unreal! Most of them rusted away because people drove them like they were intended year round, not hid them away in a garage somewhere. They were the blue collar working mans car. I love my Regal, but unless I cut it up like I'm doing, it would never get the attention that any of my Mopars got. My older brother bought a 68 Charger in 1980 for $800. Its just a 383 car, he still owns it to this day. He probably has about 5k in that car total. it would easily bring 35k today. Say what you want, A GN will never reach that status, unless you left it in the garage its whole life and never put any miles on it. And really, what fun is that?
 
HeavyD, HeavyD,
My brother from a different mother...you are going to get trashed for your last quote. I agree with your statement about the early Mopars, but our GN's are already being called the most collectable car made in the last 35 years. Different times, different materials, different marketplace...you cant compare the two when it comes to collectability. The Mopars will always be 20-25 years older, cant change that, and therefore there will always be fewer and fewer. Rarity plays a big part in collectability. Th GNX's are doing pretty well for the "newest" factory, limited production muscle cars. I work in the automotive engineering field. Today, if you mention you want to build something out of metal, executives look at you like your flippin' crazy. "We can mold it out of resin or plastic for half the cost.", that is what you will get as a response. That is why our cars have the bumper fillers and other trim parts that go bad and crack and so forth. Imagine if they had aluminum fillers and stamped steel trim pieces??? My 62 Chevy's interior window trim is all light weight sheet metal. No fading or cracking to deal with 48 years later. The GN's and TR's and early 60-70's cars were engineered and constructed different and that affects the value and ease of restoration of the two. Even a well protected GN is going to need things done to it that the earlier cars wont, just to keep it collectable. Plastic has a lifespan. That is why it took me almost 12 years to find a perfect set of armrests for my 65 Plymouth super stocker. They are plastic and the bolts reacted with the plastic after 30+ years and they just broke when I set my arm on them one day. No one to this day repops the correct armrests for the 62-65 Mopars, but when they do, it will make restorations easier. Our GN's are ALL PLASTIC...wait another 10 years and see what your in for.
Building cars in the 60's was easy. The economy was BOOMING and everyone who wanted a job, had one. Most paid pretty well, not like today. Cars were cheaper, options were cheaper. In 1964, my father bought a new Dodge hardtop. It was a 383 4-speed car and had limited bells and whistles. He had just graduated high school. He got a job in the steel mill and his car payment was $55. 6 months later he ordered a new factory engine called a HEMI. It was $900.00 carbs to pan. Can you imagine, 900 bucks complete??? In the 80's, jobs sucked for alot of the country. The steel towns where I grew up hadnt recovered from loosing 900,000 jobs in a 3 year span. My dad went from making $17/ hr as a blacksmith for Youngstown Sheet and Tube to $9.00 hour in a bread factory. That was 1977, it took until about 1990 before he made that much again and prices were not from 1977.

Didnt mean to ramble, but when you have been in a family that has collected cars as serious as my family has, you get educated in all the outer world issues that effected the car manufacturing in this nation.

Take it easy,
Coach
 
I have been a GM guy for years, but I have owned a little bit of everything else. My GN is the best all around car I have owned. But I have to admit, my old 69 Super Bee rust bucket with a loose 440, ported heads from a Direct Connection template kit, 509 DC cam, 850 annular discharge, Torker intake and 4:10's was the most fun and best sounding car I have owned. Mopars sheet metal had the highest sulphur content of the domestics, combine that with poor drainage = major rust issues. Great drive trains, hard to kill a slant 6 or early 318.
 
I think it's just there time to shine. People wanting real Hemi's from real old school muscle cars im sure has bumped the value up for now.

Retro is in and the major car manufactors are reproducing old school cars into to new school muscle and Hemi is again what people associate with old school ORIGINAL muscle.
 
Why so expensive? Cuz for one thing, in addition to the rust issues, guys like me were hacking em into sellable bits left and right 30yrs ago! WOW, the muscle I've chopped up!:eek: We'd drag em outa garages, barns, yards, junkyards, everywhere for their parts before there was a substantial aftermarket. Only had one Hemicar--sans the Hemi, and I'm so ready to Puke if I need to look at another. They're as stale to me as flat black and red steelies wearing whitewall's on a hotrod.

Another reason is, part of the rarity in MoPar's is that often times you can find that your specific combination makes a particular car 1-of-1. Every panel was dated and multiple places are ser#'d giving a car provenance if undamaged or properly restored.

The ones I let live cuz I didn't get were the cream of rarity though. Wonder how many survived anyways? Things like 69 Coronet RT conv., 4sp. one yr only turquois paint, wht int under a blk top and stripe. A Plum Crazy AAR Cuda, and same 440-6,4sp '70 SuperBee, along with dozens of others I passed on.

I won't go on all day with the ones I have owned, and did or didn't cut up.
 
HeavyD, HeavyD,
My brother from a different mother...you are going to get trashed for your last quote.
Coach

:biggrin: I know I will!... I agree that they probably are the most collectable car in the last 35 years, because they made so many of them and guys didnt use them as daily drivers as much as they did for toys. I dont think they will ever reach the dollar status of the old muscle cars. I'm just trying to help everyone here, with me hacking my rust free GN up to make a pro street car out of it, your values can only go up! I think a thanks is in order dont you! :biggrin:
 
Its all about the rarity ... TODAY ---

No, not necessarily. It's about offer and demand... It's not because something is rare that it automatically has some value. If no one is interested in it, even if it's rare, it doesn't have any real value, but if everyone is looking for an item for which there is more demand than supplies, then it has value!...:)
As for Mopar Hemi cars, I feel that everyone has gone overboard with them...Maybe because of the legend created in the '60-'70's by people who had success at the track with them, I dunno...Maybe in 35 years from now, guys will go crazy about GN's ?...Who knows?...:cool:
As for myself, I don't have anything against Hemi cars, just that they're not my "cup of tea". I much prefer a '70-'71 Chevelle big block than a '68-'70 Hemi Road Runner or Super Bee...but that's me. I don't care much for rarity...

Claude. :)
 
Why are Mopars so popular?

It's the styling, stupid.

Mopars were generally the coolest looking cars on the road.
 
ponticraps are turds.. the fastest real muscle cars (not vettes and cobras) were mopars and stage 1 buicks.. most hemi cars ran terrible on the street but the 440's were SOLID.
 
I would think the outlandish colors and the offerings involving Hemi motors help drive up cost. I didnt read all the posts here just figured I would offer my opinion.

Walked up on this a couple years back, easily worth more than the Challenger in the OP. The dude that "found" it got a steal on it.

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Also found this million dollar Cuda just hanging out with the rest at Car Craft one year.

One of two factory 4-speed convertible 1971 Hemi Cuda's.

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ponticraps are turds..

Funny you say that....there's another guy on another board that swears up and down Pontiacs are the best thing since sliced bread....he even claims the 301 Pontiac V8 has more nickel content than all of the production small block Chevys and even the aftermarket ones...and even goes on to tell a story (I call it a "tall tale) on how they made a bunch of hp with a boosted 301.
 
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