Why Do we never run into fast imports on the street??

[turbojimmy]

Originally posted by The Don
don't belive me do you own research cause some of these cars can beat a gn in the 1/4 mile

I don't need to do the research - I can see for myself at the track. I'm not saying GNs are unbeatable nor am I critisizing the 350Z's performance. I'm just reporting what I saw on Sunday, and have routinely seen at the track. Switch to decaf, dude.

I will say, however, that if I made a multi-thousand dollar investment in an intercooled turbo setup for my 350Z and was only running mid-13s at only a couple MPH more than stock I'd be pretty pissed. But I wouldn't buy a 350Z for drag racing exclusively and I'm sure these guys didn't either. The 350Z does lots of other things well, looking really cool is one of them.

Anything can beat anything with the right investment. Honestly I don't care what can beat a GN in the 1/4. I don't take offense to the fact that there are faster cars out there like some people do. People like to do it with cubes, with turbos, with blowers, with NOS, with domestics, with imports, with motorcycles, with snowmobiles. Who cares what's faster? Just like what you drive. If you find that you're constantly defending what you drive to other people then maybe you should do some soul searching - you may find that you really would rather have something else.

Jim

 

[Sleeper]

Originally posted by Blown&Injected
Hey Paul, I see your sig; that's cheatin'!


I'm helping a friend put his turbo Celica Alltrac back together. It is(was) a very clean Toyota with lots of mods; not quite as modded as your car, his is still a 2 liter Toyota engine. He put down 254 wheel HP but the car got totaled by a drunk kid with no insurance before he could go to the track.

254 at the wheels with an AWD should be solidly over 300 engine HP. Nice 4 cylinder IMO

See guys, I am not a rice hater, it is not my preferred, but just because I realistically acknowledge that the domestics still rule by-an-large does not equal import hate

Caught me Steve
That Alltrac Celica sounds killer. It must launch like a rocket. I've see couple of all wheel drive Talons rocket out of the hole as well. I remember the look on this guys face when he got dusted by a Typhoon. He had a really nice Chevelle and didn't know about the Syclone's and Typhoon's Traction rules.
Since this thread is going all over the place anyway I thought I'd throw in my 2 cent worth.

Paul

 

[The Don]

turbojimmy

What word would you use or try and use to describe a DOMESTIC car modified in a particular manner. What term would one suggest to describe the 16-second, gauged-out, tinted, big-winged, 20" rimmed, dropped-to-the-ground, fire-extinguisher on both a-pillars, fart-canned, blue washer lit, graphics-applied, sticker-laden, ground fx'd <insert import name here> car with the crazy paint job driven by a punk with no respect for other people on the road or at the track?

oh yeah I'm not defending just explaining toughen up cupcake!! lol

IM WAITIN 4 SUM1 2 TELL ME"WERE N AMERICA, U SHULD DRIVE AN AMERICAN CAR"

 

[turbojimmy]

Originally posted by The Don
turbojimmy

What word would you use or try and use to describe a DOMESTIC car modified in a particular manner. What term would one suggest to describe the 16-second, gauged-out, tinted, big-winged, 20" rimmed, dropped-to-the-ground, fire-extinguisher on both a-pillars, fart-canned, blue washer lit, graphics-applied, sticker-laden, ground fx'd <insert import name here> car with the crazy paint job driven by a punk with no respect for other people on the road or at the track?

oh yeah I'm not defending just explaining toughen up cupcake!! lol

IM WAITIN 4 SUM1 2 TELL ME"WERE N AMERICA, U SHULD DRIVE AN AMERICAN CAR"

I'd call it the same thing - "rice". That's why I'm looking for another term. I've seen Cavaliers, Neons, Escorts, and tons of other domestics done up the same way. I call them "riced out".

The media has been using the term "tuner style" or "tuners" to describe these things. When you say "rice", though, everyone knows what you're talking about.

Jim

 

[Blown&Injected]

Originally posted by Sleeper
Caught me Steve
That Alltrac Celica sounds killer. It must launch like a rocket. Since this thread is going all over the place anyway I thought I'd throw in my 2 cent worth.

Paul

This type of thread always goes out of control, but it is often kinda funny.

As far as the launch - well it sucks big time - his car never got the chance. Waiting months for the next part, some of them from Australia. Finally get it all together, well what is ever totally finished , he sent it to the dyno for some final tweaking, had some fun just driving to work for a few days before that kid I was talking about slammed into him. Every seat in the car was wiped out except for the drivers seat - he was hurt but lucky to be alive.

I am pissed BIG TIME that all that time and work was never realized at the track and it is not even my car.

 

[The Radius Kid]

Originally posted by The Don
turbojimmy

What word would you use or try and use to describe a DOMESTIC car modified in a particular manner. What term would one suggest to describe the 16-second, gauged-out, tinted, big-winged, 20" rimmed, dropped-to-the-ground, fire-extinguisher on both a-pillars, fart-canned, blue washer lit, graphics-applied, sticker-laden, ground fx'd <insert import name here> car with the crazy paint job driven by a punk with no respect for other people on the road or at the track?

I agree on that point.Some of thos little sh#theads are the reason that we're going through hell up here with the government over our cars.
I wonder if they're allowed those extinguishers on the pillers?
Are they properly secured and safe?

 

[Blown&Injected]

I'm tellin' you!

Originally posted by The Don
IM WAITIN 4 SUM1 2 TELL ME"WERE N AMERICA, U SHULD DRIVE AN AMERICAN CAR"

I have been watching The Exporting of America on some cable news network (MSNBC, CNN, or maybe CNBC ???). It is unbelievable how bad we are getting beat up. Cheap labor, no benefits, no future or retirement possibility, no strict controls on manufacturing... WAG: American manufacturing firms probably spend more on proper waste disposal than Chinese firms spend on Plant and Equipment!

As one involved in mfg, and as one that has been looking for a job for about one year, I SAY, AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, BUY AMERICAN!

It is interesting to note that the terrorists boycott American companies - a bit of respect, loyalty, and pride may not be a bad thing.

 

[TRiv]

Originally posted by turbojimmy
I use, or try to use (too lazy to re-read my own post) the word "rice" to describe a foreign car modified in a particular manner. Doesn't necessarily have to be a Japanese car, IMO. I'm not a "rice" hater, I just don't get it. Like a lot of things I don't understand, I try to keep an open mind or at the very least tolerate them. A lot of them bring the "hate" upon themselves with their behavior on the street and at the track. I guess it's typical punk behavior and is not necessarily tied to what they drive, but the stereotypes have already been established.

What term would one suggest to describe the 16-second, gauged-out, tinted, big-winged, 20" rimmed, dropped-to-the-ground, fire-extinguisher on both a-pillars, fart-canned, blue washer lit, graphics-applied, sticker-laden, ground fx'd <insert import name here> car with the crazy paint job driven by a punk with no respect for other people on the road or at the track? Really, I'd like to know because I can see how "rice" could offend.

Jim

Trying to find a good name for the "ricer" sterotype is a tuff one, though the "ricer" sterotype has been with us a long time IMO. They could have been around since the 50's or even earlier! Look back into the street scene history and there have been "ricer" type cars running around, I started into cars in the late 70's, and though the models were different (Cutlasses, Malibus, LeMans, or anything for that matter), were jacked up, big tires, stickers, funky paint (or primer!) stereos (for the time period) , glasspack mufflers, etc., with moderate to stock performance 350's, 307's, etc. In the 80's there were similar only different models, though similar molestation was done to a lot of mini trucks. The 90's seemed mostly decals. I was too young to pay much attention in the early 70s (vans mostly) or the 60's ,and wasn't around for the 50's, but heard stories and seen pictures, again yikes!

Thank goodness that most , not all but most of the real hi perf cars of any era including today , usually keep a low, tasteful profile. The "ricers" or past or future hi perf want to be's /show offs could use some generic name for there circus like behavior and taste: street clowns/monkeys/punks/etc., I just ignor them though they are good for a laugh at their exspense.