Wideband auto tuning preference? GenII translator or TT 6.1 chip?

[HouTX87]

Hey guys, I hope I'm posting this in the right section. It looks like the Gen II translator and the TurboTweak 6.1 chip both have the ability to auto correct the fuel trim. The 6.1 chip says it requires the powerlogger and 50lb+ injectors. I will probably end up with both the powerlogger and maf translator eventually but does anyone have a recommendation whether one route would be better than another? I just installed alky control and I'm itching to get a wideband on the car and really get it tuned.

 

[broke]

Cant go wrong with Eric. High quality products and support after the sale. 6.1 is the way i went and have had only positive results.

 

[bad V6]

Both are great products. The Gen2 will give more flexibility in the tune, but costs more to set up properly. Both Eric & Bob are members on this board and willing to help anyone with questions.

 

[CGASTON]

Hey guys, I hope I'm posting this in the right section. It looks like the Gen II translator and the TurboTweak 6.1 chip both have the ability to auto correct the fuel trim. The 6.1 chip says it requires the powerlogger and 50lb+ injectors. I will probably end up with both the powerlogger and maf translator eventually but does anyone have a recommendation whether one route would be better than another? I just installed alky control and I'm itching to get a wideband on the car and really get it tuned.

Hey, I have the GEN II and will say yes it does offer a little more flexibility but can be a bit of a pain in the Ass. Now, Eric's 6.1 chip will work with the GEN II but you will not get the full functionality of it. You will need Bob's "Extender Extreme G" chip for all functionality. Now with Eric's chip you can have him burn you an SD chip with WB correction. I guess it all depends on what you want to do. Tune and tweak all the time, then get the GEN II and Ext Extreme G. Set it and run then the TT..

 

[HouTX87]

Both are great products. The Gen2 will give more flexibility in the tune, but costs more to set up properly. Both Eric & Bob are members on this board and willing to help anyone with questions.

Why would the Gen2 cost more? Wouldn't I just need the gen2 translator and maf upgrade? With the 6.1 chip I would need larger injectors and the powerlogger.

They both look like great options and I plan to eventually have everything to support either one. I like that you can theoretically tell the gen2 what a/f ratio you want and it tunes for you. I imagine too many features probably could become a pita.

 

[HouTX87]

So the gen II requires constant tweaking? Maybe the 6.1 chip would be the better long term option?

 

[kidglok]

the 6.1 chip is easy to set up. Im not familiar with gen2, but when i had his 6.1 i basically plugged it in and dialed the a/f and i was there within a few hits on the street. The only real "tuning" is helping the correction to be as close to zero as possible by bumping the mid and wot fuel cells.

 

[huntsg]

Gen II doesn't need constant tweaking. I have the Extender Extreme chip, the Gen II and a WB. I have no complaints and you can tune it in many different ways. I do some basic tuning and then use the WB correction to get the AF ratio at WOT that I'm looking for. It could be a little daunting but Bob offers great support and so do many members.

 

[kidglok]

It could be a little daunting but Bob offers great support and so do many members.

u think thats daunting, try XFI lol

 

[turbo nasty]

Gen 2 doesnt need constant tweaking x2 if you have to constantly tweak it then you have some other crap wrong

 

[blackgn1]

I'm running Eric's Speed Denisty Chip. My tune is the best it has ever been.

 

[CGASTON]

Gen 2 doesnt need constant tweaking x2 if you have to constantly tweak it then you have some other crap wrong

To get the GEN II set right you need to make several passes so you can get things dialed in... You can adjust your fuel in the MAF settings, the low, mid, high user settings. The you can make over all settings in main scale. Plus there are several other settings that to help tune it in. But one thing is that you cant just start the car and make adjustments. Lots of strip time (WHICH IS NOT A ISSUE, CAUSE I WOULD RATHER HAVE AN AWESOME TUNED CAR).

TT is a good jump in and drive chip with some tweaks. Both have some basic tuning, but GEN II requires a lot more for the best tune.

But then again, if you just want to plug it in and drive you will be ok.

 

[dpasadena]

I'm running Eric's Speed Denisty Chip. My tune is the best it has ever been.

Running the SD TT chip on the street and the driveability is awesome and my car has never run better. I spent some time tweaking, but the end result is great. Have not touched the chip in months and the tune is still there

 

[bad V6]

With the Gen2 you also need an Extender Extreme chip. Tuning with the aid of a data logger, to review logs and get the tune close, then adjust the parameters within the chip or the Gen2.

I have the Gen2 and a buddy of mine that I race with frequently, runs Eric's chip. They are both great products, and very capable in the hands of someone that knows how to properly adjust the tune. There is no major adjustments to be made during routine driving. However I do add a little fuel during the winter months just to be on the safe side, as my car sets on 25+ pounds of boost year round.

 

[turbo nasty]

FWIW ive been running the GEN 2 for 5years and very aware of the tuning ability. In my experience i dont have to keep tweaking it.... if your are.running the boost, turbo, etc that Bob burns the chip for its pretty darn close. I typically have to add a very few percent to low and not much at WOT/ high. If i crank the boost and not using wb correvtion then i have to add more fuel accordingly.

 

[TurboBuRick]

Over the years I've learned allot about the translators. The old time vehicle specific translators are the easiest to understand and use. I recommend this and a scanmaster to anyone starting out. You can still use a wideband o2 but you have to make the fueling changes yourself. Not a big deal.

Tracking is a neat feature but once a car is tuned there is no need for it IMO.

RL

 

[TurboTnZ06]

Tracking is a neat feature but once a car is tuned there is no need for it IMO.

RL

W/B tracking is really nice. You can accidentally or purposefully add a little bit of boost and it should run good without having to change the chip settings. Chips are burnt for a specific boost level out of the box. Adding more boost than the chip is tuned for, makes it easy to go lean possibly, even though fuel pressure increases 1:1. Since you can log with the powerlogger, you can then adjust the base fueling for the increased boost for the new W/B tracking tune baseline. Makes tuning easy since it tells you what it had to do to handle that boost for added fueling. If things go south, or you fudged the tune, at least the chip will attempt to add 33% more fuel if it can before you can react to the KR gauge going to the red.

 

[TurboBuRick]

We've come a long way from those day's. Extender, extender extreme and speed density chips will continue to add fuel. These chips have made tuning a piece of cake. Almost fool proof.


RL