Will the REAL John Kerry please stand up....

[Silver 6]

And why do we need trust funds? Because a socialist government believes all wealth belongs to the govenment and not to the families of the people who earned it.

 

[UNGN]

Originally posted by Pronto
Dispariging remarks about Kerry's wealth go for Bush too.

Kerry married his wealth.

I'm sure he's a very sensitive man. Rich Widows (Kerry's married 2) don't marry guys that don't at least appear sensitive.

I'm glad he's "used his celebrity" to help raise money by playing in a hockey game for Charity while hobnobbing with Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and Jay Leno, but come on man, big F'in deal.

I'd Like to hear more things that Kerry has done or wants to do, though. Maybe someone will find some where he actually Lead something or showed Leadership skills. (please limit responses to exclude the 4 months he spent driving a boat on the Mekong, 35 year ago in favor of ones that are a little more current and a little more relevant)

The Firefighter Unions seem to Like him. Maybe they will tell us his plans for the country (other than hire more firefighters) and I'll add them too the list.

 

[49-blues]

John Kerry supporter here!

 

[UNGN]

Originally posted by 49-blues
John Kerry supporter here!

Why?

Please tell me what he stands for that you like other than being "not Bush".

What Policy of his do you support and I will add it to the list. So far the list is pretty lopsided against Kerry, maybe you can add something that would be positive.


The list:

#1. Against the Death Penalty.

#2. Anti-gun.

#3. For a CAFE of 40 MPG for SUV's and Pickups (say Goodbye to the Lightning and Newtonian Physics )

#4. Against Drilling for Oil in ANWR

#5. For "Partial Birth Abortions" (but against the death penalty... I guess murderers: OK, Babies: Not OK)

#6. For NAFTA, GATT AND wants to EXPAND trade with China (betcha didn't know that)

 

[Pronto]

Originally posted by UNGN
Kerry married his wealth.

Kerry's family was wealthy. He went to private schools. His dad could have easily got him a non combatant stint in the service like someone else's dad did. So, when is a character flaw to marry someone that has more money than you? When I married my wife she had just got half the money for a house she and her ex sold. I didn't care about the money. I married her because I love her. Most women end up marring men that have more money than them, does that make them gold diggers? Of course not. Go ahead and say your remarks. Bush is out this fall, the writings on the wall.

 

[UNGN]

Ok then, I'll add that to the list.

The list:

#1. Against the Death Penalty.

#2. Anti-gun.

#3. For a CAFE of 40 MPG for SUV's and Pickups (say Goodbye to the Lightning and Newtonian Physics )

#4. Against Drilling for Oil in ANWR

#5. For "Partial Birth Abortions" (but against the death penalty... I guess murderers: OK, Babies: Not OK)

#6. For NAFTA, GATT AND wants to EXPAND trade with China (betcha didn't know that)

#7. From a wealthy family and has NEVER been Poor.

#8. Married 2 Rich Widows, but NOT a Goldigger.

#9. Served in Nam for 4 months, got three Purple Hearts but never missed a day of Duty.

#10. Missed 64% of Senate votes in 2003 including a $29 Billion Homeland Security Bill that Provided additional funding for "First Responders"

 

[SinistrV6]

Originally posted by Pronto
Bush is out this fall, the writings on the wall.

That is one of the scariest thoughts. If enough Americans are dumb enough to vote for Kerry just because they want to vote against Bush, this country may not survive.

You should vote FOR Kerry only if you believe he's a better candidate. Not just to get Bush out of office because you're "pissed off" because of something he's done or not done.

I have yet to hear ONE substantiated claim against Bush. Or ONE good claim FOR Kerry. Change for the sake of change is not smart in this case.

God help us all if the Democrats pull off this deception of the American people.

I never thought there would be enough gullible people to even give them a chance in November. I hope I'm right but I'm beginning to worry...

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by Pronto
Here's something you might not have heard or want to hear. After that fire in Worcester, Ma that killed 6 firefighters, Senator Kerry quietly went to Worcester while they were still looking for the bodies buried in the rubble. He didn't go with the media for a photo op, he went alone to see what he could do to help the families of the firefighters. The comediean Dennis Leary had a cousin that died in that fire. He has since set a fundraiser charity hockey game that John Kerry and many celeberities attend every year.
http://www.wfd1009.org/index2.htm Here's a link to the firefighter's union that endorses Kerry. You tell them and the families of the firefighters that died Kerry wouldn't make a good President.
Being wealthy doesn't mean you have no compassion.

BTW, I have been to Kennebunkport, ME to see the Bush compound. It's no trailer park. Dispariging remarks about Kerry's wealth go for Bush too.

Let me shed some light on firefighter unions. They are STRICTLY democratic. I quit the firefighter union because I got so sick of constantly hearing how great Bill and Hillary are, and what those 2 great Americans were doing for the good of the country and firefighters.....what a bunch of crap. It was a straight IV of democratic kool aid that I refused to drink.
Kerry is a no moral, sub-human that gets absolutely no respect from me. He is a professional politician, not a public servant IMO.

 

[GeneralB44]

Originally posted by Mac in SD


And a side note about General B44: great geopolitical credentials, there. The PinkHumpy websites musical self-description is almost as pretentious as advertising your Rittenhouse Square address. Fop.

Thanks for checking out my website. Glad you liked the music. Have a nice day, "Mac in SD". - Brendan Brennan (not an anonymous internet poster)

 

[GeneralB44]

As I wrote early in the thread, I can name one great thing Kerry has done - he skated with the Boston Bruins. I mean, come on? why not vote for the guy? The best thing Bush has done is throw out the first pitch ... how lame is that? Baseball is a sport for kids.

Seriously, though. UNGN and crew keep asking for reasons to vote for Kerry that aren't reasons not to vote for Bush. Hopefully somebody who pays more attention to politics than I do will step in here and have something insightful to add, because I would also like to know. I don't know, but maybe it's difficult to list his accomplishments on a Presidential scale when he hasn't had the opportunity to hold office for 4 years? Did we really know what Bush was going to do before he took office? I'm not knocking Bush, I'm really just curious because I don't know.

Brendan
stirring the pot

ps - this thread rocks (except for the part where mac tried to make me feel like a turd, that just wasn't very nice at all)

 

[UNGN]

Originally posted by GeneralB44
I don't know, but maybe it's difficult to list his accomplishments on a Presidential scale when he hasn't had the opportunity to hold office for 4 years? Did we really know what Bush was going to do before he took office? I'm not knocking Bush, I'm really just curious because I don't know.

That's a Fair Question. Bush was Governor of Texas before he became President, replacing Anne Richards, who at one time was a "rising star" in the Democatic party. She could give a good speach (she coined the phrase "born with a silver foot in his mouth") but was a terrible manager and leader.

When Bush was elected Governor, the legislature of Texas was Controlled by the Democrats. Bush worked with them to improve the quality of life in Texas and we still don't have a state income tax. Bush brought minorities and women into high levels of government and had a 60-70% approval ratings among hispanics (and a 90%+ approval among straight white males above the age of 25). Needless to say, The legislature of Texas is now controlled by the Republicans.

For John Kerry, I'm not looking for "accomplishments on a Presidential scale", I'm just looking for core beliefs. A position that he has now that is the same as he had 10 years ago. Something that he believes in that I believe in.

Is that too hard a question?

 

[Mac in SD]

Originally posted by GeneralB44
this thread rocks (except for the part where mac tried to make me feel like a turd, that just wasn't very nice at all)

You're right. It was an unnecessary personal attack. Ad hominems don't cut it. Please accept my apologies.

You still don't know what you're talking about , but I shouldn't have called you pretentious on this board.

 

[GeneralB44]

Originally posted by Mac in SD
You still don't know what you're talking about ,

You're absolutely right about that. I don't know jack about politics, and I ain't skeered to admit it.

Anyway, you're probably right about the bio... I should rewrite it, I guess. Thanks for the reality check.

 

[Mac in SD]

Originally posted by GeneralB44
You're absolutely right about that. I don't know jack about politics, and I ain't skeered to admit it.

Anyway, you're probably right about the bio... I should rewrite it, I guess. Thanks for the reality check.

Whoa, there! PLEASE don't change your bio based on my manic-depressive rantings! I was probably just jealous - me being an old married guy and all, and you jazzin' in NYC and crashin' in Rittenhouse. Seriously. I was off-base, not you. Cheers, and thanks for the PM. (PS - I know you're really only in the band for the chicks. )

 

[SinistrV6]

Here's some info on the "real" John Kerry....

The e-mail sent from Kerry to Democrats working in the Middle East and reprinted word-for-word in all Middle Eastern print media including the "Tehran Times".

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/03/16/Politics/Kerry.Will.Abandon.War.On.Terrorism-621288.shtml

An excellent article on J. F. Kerry:

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_2889.shtml

Two editorials by a decorated Vietnam Vet that have been widely published (from the author's own website):

www.donbendell.com


Just read the info and let your conscience be your guide in November.

 

[TurboJunky]

As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow you're gonna see Kerry do this;

Now that he's secured the Democratic nomination he's going to start singing another tune. He'll start shifting from the far left toward the center on many issues he's already used in the primaries. He needs to start swinging toward the center to secure the votes of the undecided.

Just today I heard the press report Kerry said he'll continue the war on terror and wants to increase the US presence in Iraq by 40,000 troops.

He didn't just flip-flop again did he??

 

[SinistrV6]

Originally posted by TT/A1233

He didn't just flip-flop again did he??

You'd think he'd get splinters from jumping over that fence so much! It's no wonder he's got the weak-minded fooled. He's on BOTH sides of every issue! Just depends on what day it is and who he's talking to!

What a Jackass!

 

[Captain Mark]

I'm telling you the guy can't be trusted. I would respect the man MORE for being a flaming liberal (which he is) and standing up for liberalism, than trying to be everything to everyone. I have no respect for the guy at all.

 

[SinistrV6]

Well said, Captain Mark!

Yeah, tell us what YOU believe in John F. Kerry!! And stick with it! If enough Americans beliefs are similar, you'll be president! No one knows what you believe in at this point.

President Bush has made his beliefs known and hasn't wavered ONE SINGLE TIME! Love it or hate it, that's what he believes and he won't change it for anyone. THAT, I can respect!

 

[Silver 6]

It seems good old Walter feels the same way....

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%7E29003%7E2026871,00.html