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You guys were all right $1000 was way out of the question!

THEY SOLD FOR $1500!!!

he must have raised the price and some sucker bit on it:eek:
 
hey

my 86 has Eagle GT's on the front in this size. Yes they are getting a little hard and smooth with some cracks in the side walls. My car has 52K on it so can these can't be original,,,, surely not. When did Goodyear stop making these tires???
 
OK, ask a GNX owner how much he'll let his original tires go for and if they are all dry rotted. I'm not saying i'd wanna go down the track in them, but who is going to flog $1500 original tires anyways? Geez, look at what we pay for some NOS parts for our cars. The market is out there BECAUSE no one reproduces these tires, and $1000 isn't alot to ask for a set of tires these days. JMHO though.
 
So the NOS tires sold for $1500 .. that is insane! :eek:

How much will someone pay me for my original, slightly used (5500 mile) tires ?! ;)
 
When I bought my 1st GN in 1990 it had 17k on the clock with original GTs in good condition. I wore those out and Goodyear had discontinued the GTs and replaced them with the IIs. I immediately noticed a huge improvement in ride, handling and wet weather driving. The IIs are a much better tire all around.

My current 1,200 mile GN still has the original GTs in perfect condition (no dry rot, no cracks and not hard). Plain and simple the GTs suck. They are early 1980 technology and are/were simply dangerous on wet roads. About the only thing they're good for is originality and great 2nd gear chirps on a stock car.

Take it from somone who's had personal experience with them back when they were new and who has them right now.
 
Originally posted by tom h
So the NOS tires sold for $1500 .. that is insane! :eek:

How much will someone pay me for my original, slightly used (5500 mile) tires ?! ;)

I bought a good 7K mile set of 4 a couple years ago for $125.00

There should be lots of these tires out there. They were standard on all AMC eagle Sports from 1982-88 :)
 
Originally posted by UNGN
I bought a good 7K mile set of 4 a couple years ago for $125.00
Ahh! Probably more like tin, than gold ;)

Apparently even a few K miles drastically lowers the value, to the point where it's not worth hassling with an ebay sale, or whatever :(
 
ORGINAL EAGLE GT Tires

Those Eagle GT RWOL tires would be mine! I had been looking for Original NOS Raised White Letter Tires, NOT Black Walls, since 1999.

BTW - The tires are in EXCELLENT CONDITION, No Dry Rot! NEVER BEEN USED, NEVER BEEN MOUNTED, GM NOS tags on all four tires.

I have seen NOS Eagle GT blackwall tires for sale 3 or 4 times for under $400 for a set of 4, since 1999. But, I have never seen or had the option to purchase NOS Eagle GT RWOL tires (available for sale). It took over 4 years of searching and posting wanted ads on the internet and still nothing.

Then Dec. 6, 2003, I was on ebay, and thought about it for 15 minutes, talked to the wife and said let's "Buy it now" for $1,500.

Now they just sit in the house. Why, because I wanted them! Also, to complete my GN as all original, including tires.

Eagle GT tires back in the day, when they were new in 1987 on a GN -- SUCKED!!!
A 1987 Buick Grand National with 157 miles and a 22 year old driver means lots of tire smoke and the smell of rubber. The police had at least one eye on me at all times. And I have had my share of tickets and testing the theory that the Eagle GT tires suck. GN's should have been equipped with better tires but were not.

The use of Eagle GT to me, was comparable to driving a rear wheel driven car in the Snow or on ICE. All over the road. Didn't take long to burn the rubber off. I immediately purchased 60's style BFG Comp TA's, and they rubbed the front fender well, when new. I like BFG and how they performed in dry and wet weather. I didn't drive my GN in rain, but did on my other cars. Now I run Cooper's on my daily driver (blackwall too). Don't think white letter tires would look good in 2004 on a Lincoln Towncar.

As for price it is about timing, sometimes you can get a really good deal, but when it comes to ebay, people just put a price out there, just like fishing. I went hook, line and sinker and ran with it.

One member of GNregistry bought his 1987 GN last summer with under 400 miles for $21,500 which I think is a good buy. Now there is another for sale on ebay with 486 miles which will probably be closer to $25,600 and a 1987 GN with 11 miles for $30,000 on gnttype.org

NOTE: THESE TIRES are ORIGINAL, NEVER BEEN USED - NEVER BEEN MOUNTED, 100 % NOS. NO Dry Rot as you might think, that is why they were asking $1500. If they didn't sell oh well, lower the reserve or lower the Buy It Now, yes they stated they had a lot of lookers including "Jay Leno" was interested.

OK, compare NOS tires that are slightly used and stored on the car for the last 16 years vs NOS Tires never used -- never mounted, stored in climate controlled environment, No sun, No extreme heat, constant temperature all year round.

The tires were sold by a woman in NC, but were shipped from http://www.miamimotorsports.com/buick_catalog.htm

I don't know why!

The point is -- I am not a sucker. I paid what I had to to get them to my house. Believe me, the price will never be lower than $1500. So if there is another sucker out there. Email me..
Nah, there not for sale.

POLL - How many people out there are the Original owner with Original equipment, 100% and have driven the car and burned off the original tires, because the GN can do it with little or no effort. My GN was purchased Jan 19, 1988. My intentions were to use my GN for several years and SELL it. Not the case today, my wife loves the GN and knew nothing about them until she met me in 1998. She always said that I couldn't sell it, so I married her, both are keepers. All other past girlfriends saw cash and a new house.

Now if I used my GN has a daily driver, things would be different and I would NOT have purchased NOS RWOL Eagle GT Tires. Remember everybody has their view and that is my .02 cents, maybe less since I spent $1500 on tires that just sit in the house. LOL, your thinking WTF. My money - my view. Insane yes.

The price and demand for Blackwall tires are much less than RWOL, like I said I have had the option to purchase eagle gt blackwalls at least 5 times over the last 5 years, even blackwalls never used for under $500. At the same time ebay had a set of 4 used RWOL Eagle GT (little dry rot) that sold to a tire wholesaler for $300.

Now -- from this time forward - Feb 22, 2004 -- keep an eye out for RWOL NOS Eagle GT tires and see how many are for sale and the price they are selling for. Also, send me an email if you do, I only seek RWOL Eagle GT NOS tires. email directly GNregistry@aol.com

Also, we keep getting closer to these cars being 20 years old, which means price will go even higher for stock original unmodified turbo regals/GN's. It is all in the name.

Can you say Buick Grand National. yeah I know you can. Just go to ebay or autotrader and see how many ads that have the word GN or grand national next to the words, turbo t or t-type for sale. it's all in the name just like the eagle GT white letter tires vs GT II's, either way, I will Never have Goodyear's on my GN when I need traction or daily use.

My friends sometimes call my GN an "international" or monte carlo, just because they know I will say IT'S A GRAND NATIONAL, you idiot. Most people just say things without thinking, that is where the motto comes in - is it better to say nothing and make people wonder or to say what is really on your mind and to confirm to them that you really are an idiot with no brains to process what you see and what you know. My little pet peeve when I am at car shows with my GN.


Regards,
Brett A. Wallace -
Co-Founder of GNregistry.org, GNregistry.com and GNXregistry.com
BGN00001A
1987 Buick Grand National
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-----> I have been trying to sell my very nice 3,000 mile nos eagle gt rwol tires for a year now!!! i asked $200 obo.....but you must pick them up in chicago no shipping!! anyone come get em :) thanks AL
 
I still got the gt's that the car had since day one still on:)


Taking offers;) :D
 
I bought my 87 T-Type new. I have never had a worse radial tire than those were. They weren't very good on dry pavement, and were downright scary on wet pavement. They were so bad I don't know how anybody can compare them to anything.

As for dry rot, I have about 4K on my BFG Radial T/A's I put on my 68 Dodge Coronet R/T in about 1980. They have no cracks and look like new. It's how you store tires that matters. Mine were in a dry cool garage with no sunlight on them off the ground. I had them dismounted to polish the wheels. When they were remounted they said they looked fine. I would drive them anywhere at any speed anytime. This makes them almost 25 years old! Leave them outside in the weather and sun and they could rot in a short time.
 
Hmmm...

In my view (and it's an opinion only so don't get your panties in a bunch here), people who are willing and able to spend $1500 for a set of 15 year old tires only HURT the hobby by just driving up prices. It's the same old story like what is happening now to '67 Mustangs ever since the "Gone in 60 Seconds" movie came out. Now, 'Eleanor' clones are popping up left and right - at mega-buck prices - like all the "I killed a GN" stories from WRX-STi guys.

Speculators and investors, as well as people who want to make sure every sticker is in place on a motor just to garner some judge's approval to win a $25 trophy, do more harm to the automotive hobby than anyone. How? By inflating prices beyond the reach of the young people we need to keep interested in the hobby to keep it going.

But hey, it's your money and you can spend it any way you want. This is a free country and that's what is great about it. Supply and demand are the foundation of our capitalistic society and that is a double edged sword.

I would imagine when Goodyear learns it can get $1500 for four tires that they couldn't hardly give away back in the '80's, they will bring out the molds and manufacture them by the tens of thousands! :D

A side note - In 1987, the rear tires (Eagle GT's) on the first GN I bought lasted a whopping 620 miles. :eek: Burnouts (on the street and at the track)were just way too numerous so I blew through the first set in record time. Damn - I see now that there went $750! (I replaced them for a little more than $200.)
 
It doesn't really hurt the hobby if MFG's are willing to step up and make reproductions.

A few years back I found an NOS pair of E60-15's and a pair of G60-15 Goodyear Polyglas GT's (AAR Cuda/T/A Challenger sizes). Still had stickers and everything. I paid the guy $290 for the 4. He was happy I was happy.

I got them home and did some research and saw people were paying $1500 for a used set. I put them on my '70 Cuda and for about two years I blew peoples minds.

Then reproductions started to appear (the G's are $250 each) and everyone can have tires that looked like mine.

The hobby is never hurt by people willing to pay too much for stuff. Sure it costs you more to buy stuff (that you otherwise coundn't get at any price).

Everyone complains how much stuff costs, but nobody complains when they get $35,000 for a car they paid $6500 for (+ a $290 set of tires). I know I didn't.

There will ALWAYS be rust buckets, projects and non popular models for people with no money/young people to restore/enjoy. Nothing gets youths interested in something like being able to sell it for more than what you have in it. They may learn this lesson AFTER building a couple ricers, but they WILL learn it.
 
don't forget MCSS and Hurst/442 owners are in competition for those tires too. Not so much SS owners, i could care less what tires are on mine but for my hurst i would love to have to the original GT's instead of the GT II's. I also think the originals were better for traction as they were a softer compound, thats why they don't last.
 
Re: ORGINAL EAGLE GT Tires

Originally posted by GNregistry
One member of GNregistry bought his 1987 GN last summer with under 400 miles for $21,500 which I think is a good buy. Now there is another for sale on ebay with 486 miles which will probably be closer to $25,600 and a 1987 GN with 11 miles for $30,000 on gnttype.org
I believe you're referring to my GN which has the front of the photo page. If you look closely, you can see the window sticker still on it. I bought it from a gent in Texas and was shown to have 357 actual miles. It may not have been fair, but I took 2nd place at Autorama by just hitting it with a duster.

When I got it the odometer showed 424.3 and it now has just a tad over 1,200. I just can't help myself....
 
the old GT's were 6 ply and the GT 2's are either 4 or 2 ply so how can they handle better?? The biggest complaint about Gt's are that they don't wear good. Tires that don't wear good are usually of softer compound, soft compound means better grip. Simple answers to a great debate, GT's were better than GTII's PERIOD!
 
Originally posted by 88 CuttyClassic
the old GT's were 6 ply and the GT 2's are either 4 or 2 ply so how can they handle better?? The biggest complaint about Gt's are that they don't wear good. Tires that don't wear good are usually of softer compound, soft compound means better grip. Simple answers to a great debate, GT's were better than GTII's PERIOD!
Have you driven a Turbo Buick with a fresh set of both kinds of tires in new condition, on wet and dry roads? I have.
 
Originally posted by TT/A1233
Have you driven a Turbo Buick with a fresh set of both kinds of tires in new condition, on wet and dry roads? I have.
no but i've driven a corvette with both sets and its a like night and day. i've also driven my SS with originals and my hurst with the II's and once again it wasn't close. how are you gonna dispute 6 ply as oppossed to 2 ply. If they were as good as the originals the price would reflect it. My dad's shop deals with this same tire company since 79. when he went to get new tires for his vette the guy told him that original GT's were a true performance tire and the II's were a cosmetic/apperance replacement only.
 
Well, perhaps a GT on a car made for twisties on dry pavement is great but it's almost a death sentence otherwise.

A GT on a Buick with anything but dry roads is asking for disaster. My first GN had the original GTs for quite some time, then the IIs then the +4s. Every change was an absolute upgrade for all around performance. I didn't drive on road courses and evaluate them with computers but drove them daily in spring/summer/fall weather conditions.

My current GN has the original GTs in perfect condition. They break loose easily and turn a lot of heads with the noise they produce. Considering my experience with'em it's hard to classify them as a performance tire. Then again my TTA had Firestone Firehawks and you can't get much better than those...
 
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