Anyone besides me run 50/50 antifreeze year round.

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whitehot1

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Just curious, i have always ran this mix all year round in all my cars without having any issues. I've owned 86-87 Turbo Buicks since they came out. The first was a new 87 GN,then an 87 Turbo T,then 3- 86 T-Types. And this was when i lived in Fla,SC,KY,OH.

It just seemed like a good idea to me since the antifreeze does more than stopping the coolant from freezing and causing damage to the engine,such as preventing rust in the system/engine,water pump lubricant and preventing over heating in the summer.
 
My engine seems to spend more time out of the car than in...so water is just fine for me....:mad:

Bryan
 
No reason to run 50% if you don't need the freeze protection of that ratio.

After you have enough to protect the engine, that's all you need. All adding more antifreeze does is increase the money it takes to maintain it (and end up with more goo if you go too long without flushing it)
 
I like the peace of mind in knowing i have more protection than needed in case a severe cold front comes in unexpectedly,and i would get the "oh shiet" feeling of thinking did i add enough antifreeze so the freeze plugs don't pop out or worse crack the block.

I flushed the engine/cooling system last year. And bought Prestone extended life antifreeze that is designed for up to 5 years and 150,000 miles of protection against temperature extremes,rust,corrosion and premature water pump failure, i also used distilled water to mix it with.

It just seems like a small price to pay for knowing the engine/system is protected. I have aluminum heads,radiator and water pump and the protection from corrosion is a plus.

I drive the car at most 600 miles per year and it's garage kept, not a daily driver but it could be. I change the fluids/oils often so really no chance of the antifreeze 50 percent mix turning into goo from being left in the engine to long.
 
I know of a few reasons NOT to use antifreeze all year.

One reason is antifreeze will run hotter than water since it does not transfer heat as well a plain water.

Another reason is in hot or mild weather the small amount of protective additives in A/F will quickly become ineffective and will cause many issues in the cooling system.

In a short time the coolant solution will go acidic and cause silicate dropout, especially in the radiator which is evident by the hard, white deposits around the tubes.

We have seen this in very low mileage cars which had radiators 50% clogged that seldom, or never, had the A/F changed.

An obvious reason NOT to run A/F if it is not freezing weather is the the ethylene glycol will immediately damage soft bearing surfaces if it comes into contact with it.

Commercial A/F has a minimal additive package as this is the second most expensive item, the marketing and advertising is the most expensive. ;)

For years we have recommended that RMI-25 be used with A/F to help protect the cooling system.

Since we are very aware of the importance of a good cooling system in our climate to protect our expensive engines, we highly recommend flushing A/F every spring, and use RMI-25 the rest of the year.

If you really believe the ad guy's hype of A/F lasting 5 years and 150K miles, let me know how that works out for you? :rolleyes:

Your cooling system with iron, alum, copper all in solution is the basis of a wet cell battery that will attack/corrode and remove metal, especially the aluminum.

If you insist on your method, it would be smart to add RMI-25 at least twice a year. This will cost you about $5 a treatment to protect parts that are much more expensive! :)
 
There would only be 5 months out of 12 that one could guarantee temperatures never drop below freezing. I suppose one could switch to water/RMI for those months.
 
I have run 50/50 and even a little higher of anti freeze to guard against corrosion.
In the 85, the radiator is original and doing fine at 140K miles. I have had to change the heater core twice due to a solder seem giving out.
In the 87 ditto but it only has 12K miles on it.
I run 50/50 in everything. Once when I ran less than 50/50 I noticed the coolant getting rusty looking in a short time.
It is also recommended to guard against corrosion in aluminum parts of the cooling system.
Cheap insurance IMHO.
 
I run 40% AF since I do get it out in the winter sometimes. I flush every other year unless the motor is out for another reason then it gets done again. I'd like to use water in the summer as I do race quite a bit, but have never done so yet and have had no issues. I think regular flushing is most important in keeping the whole system clean.
 
40-50% here but it only goes below zero a week or two a year.

I did run RMI and water, or water wetter and water when racing in the summer with some water pump lube additive.

Both cars ran their numbers so no more racing for now, I change the anti-freeze out every 3 years or so, two water flushes as best as possible than drop in the new $$$ stuff, Prestone usually.

No issues at all with it, the stock radiators usually last a long time, I'm gonna try a fancy aluminum one next leak. :eek:
 
Engine ice only. No glycol product in that. Been thru the antifreeze and bearings ordeal as nick said above


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I didn't think i would be the only one using the 50/50 ratio.

I have looked at the premixed antifreeze being sold and the 50/50 ratio seems to be the only one being sold.

Thanks to all for replies.
 
[quote="we4Mateo, I think regular flushing is most important in keeping the whole system clean.[/quote]

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Another reason to run water and RMI is if you drag race any and you are competing and blow a hose or hg and spray A/F on the track you will be barred from running there for the season because of the clean up of the track and making it very slick and dangerous . We have that rule at several of our local tracks . I leave mine in a garage year around that seldom ever see`s freezing temps inside .
 
Per advice from Nick i run distilled and RMI. Hasnt been a problem since car stays in insulated garage and gets no lower than 40 deg..
 
I understand where you guys are coming from that don't use antifreeze. It is called warm weather climates. Us northern folks need the freeze protection. Yes I could drain the coolant in the winter but I also drive it around the block during the winter just to get oil back into the areas that it has drained from. I wish I didn't have to run it but Indiana winter say I have to.


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I've lived in midwest ( Missouri) been in or around the car business 40 years antifreeze is a way or fact of live here, in that time I can tell you more horror stories about not have used it cracked blocks and heads, split radiators broke water pumps soft plugs pushed out from freezing.So for us it's allways been a year around thing not to many people i've ever met would run water then switch just for the winter.Is antifreeze harder on the cooling system problaly does straight water rust things maybe I guess our thinking is the part would ware out and need replaced before the antifreeze caused damage anyway never had a overheating problem using antifreeze or notised my car running hotter with it.
 
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