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jpratt

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Anybody ever been banned and then reinstated to eBay?

I have 3 accounts, one for work, one for personnal and the wifes. All three have been banned for pirce shilling. I am bad. I used my personal account and the wifes to bid only once on things I was selling at work. Well this afternoon all three accounts have been banned. They said in the email that after 7 days I can repeal and try to get reinstated.

Guess I have learned my lesson. My wife has already slapped my hand for being a bad boy.
 
Come on every one makes a mistake everyonce in a while. I am sure someone else has been caught. I was wondering if anyone was able to get reinstated.
 
I knew that was happening.

Thanks for being honest, I am a EBAY addict, and I knew that was going on, and when I suspected it of happening I would just let the seller eat it.
 
Sorry man, but I hope you don't get to have an account on Ebay. Some of us really need parts and it sucks when the only place you can find them is on Ebay and people do this! :mad:
 
he learned his lesson and knows its totally a no-no now. i hope it works out and you get your accounts back.
 
I've been getting in trouble on there for putting a link to my website. (trying to get some cheap advertising :D ) Was doing that for years, now all of a sudden they are getting tough. I don't bid on my own items though.

Funny though, people will bid items up instead of going to my site where they can get them cheaper.
 
Louster38 said:
he learned his lesson and knows its totally a no-no now. i hope it works out and you get your accounts back.

How has he learned his lesson??? Just because he got caught and admitted to it??? That's not learning your lesson. Most crooks know they're doing wrong, but don't stop until caught, and then may not.
Just knowing you've done something wrong, and admitting to it IS NOT LEARNING YOUR LESSON. Maybe that's what's so wrong with todays generation. A terribly warped sense of justice.

He'll have learned his lesson when the ban stays in effect for a year or so.
7 days! Give me a break! :mad: :mad:

People like that have no business doing business on ebay again for a very long time.
 
TurboDave said:
People like that have no business doing business on ebay again for a very long time.
So I guess if you get caught speeding then you should have your license revoked forever, I mean you could have killed someone driving that fast.

It was only one item the I bid on with my personnal account. THe item I bid a 150 on went to over 300 the last day anyway. I put the 150 bid on it when there was only 4 days left to bid. They were not GN relted items, things we sell for work.
 
jpratt said:
It was only one item the I bid on with my personnal account. THe item I bid a 150 on went to over 300 the last day anyway. I put the 150 bid on it when there was only 4 days left to bid. They were not GN relted items, things we sell for work. Not like I bumped the bid at the last minute.

That doesn't matter and doesn't justify doing it no matter what the bid went to. You had no idea that the bid would go that high, unless you can tell the future. That's convoluted logic. I mean it's like killing a 90 year old woman and after saying "well she was old and was going to die soon anyway". Not much of a defense. And no I'm not trying to compare the action to killing someone. I would think that since what you did would be a Cardinal sin on Ebay, a year bannishment would be more than fair. That way you could truly be sorry for it and have time to think about it.
 
I think I orignaly asked if anyone has been reinstated, not how wrong this was. I know it was wrong and I wont do it again. But I did not ask for your comments on how wrong this was, just if anyone has been reinstated.
 
well if you sell alot on ebay you know the charges are high if you put a reserve so if he wants to bid,thats up to him,simple as that..ebay should not get involved they are getting paid..options.1)put a reserve and pay alot to ebay...2)put a no reserve auction,start it at your reserve(not hardly any bidders if any)..3)put it on and auction off and take a chance of loseing your ars??there is soooo many people doing it and if they ban you screw ebay,change your ip address and sign up again:) even if your price is fair and start the bidding at a certain price,sometimes all it takes is one bid to start the biddings...tell me,do you think at the barret jackson auction there was not someones friend in the audiance bidding for the seller to get what the owner wants?if anyone says no,do a iq test and get back to me...mines not too high and i know for a fact...yes,the only car that went threw that i knew the guy(local friend)told me that he has one guy and so do most of the sellers...ill tell you one guy that did not have a friend bidding,the t-bucket with the leather interior and all that custom stuff for storage in the rear,they said it probably cost 300k to build..it sold for under 100k..if you recorded it play it back,the owner was right next to the car and looked like he was going to cry..no joke..
 
jpratt said:
So I guess if you get caught speeding then you should have your license revoked forever, I mean you could have killed someone driving that fast.

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Typical logic these days. That's quite a comparison.
1. I've never gotten a speeding ticket, and if so, I'd pay the fine.
2. If I got caught speeding, I wasn't ripping somebody off, or trying to.

Your logic is as warped as your deeds, so there's not much sense in trying to convince anyone of the seriousness of fraud, especially in this day and age.

Outa here.
 
Doing that (shilling) is dirty and offensive.

If I KNEW you were doing that against something I was bidding on and I could find you, I would beat your a$$. That is the same as stealing from me (or any other bidder, whether it is something TR related or junk from your house) and I don't take kindly to thieves.

Shame on you. The only good thing here is that you know it was wrong. And saying that someone else might be doing it (B-J for example) does NOT make it ok for you.

I hope you don't get your accounts back. :mad:
 
TurboDave said:
Typical logic these days. That's quite a comparison.
1. I've never gotten a speeding ticket, and if so, I'd pay the fine.
2. If I got caught speeding, I wasn't ripping somebody off, or trying to.

Your logic is as warped as your deeds, so there's not much sense in trying to convince anyone of the seriousness of fraud, especially in this day and age.

Outa here.


Yes, I propose we EXECUTE HIM
 
right or wrong, the buyer still has the option of not purchasing what he is bidding on, so regardless of if he shills or not apparently if someone bought it, they thought it was worth the money to them.
 
Pablo said:
right or wrong, the buyer still has the option of not purchasing what he is bidding on, so regardless of if he shills or not apparently if someone bought it, they thought it was worth the money to them.

Yes, but more flawed logic. The point is, when you advertise for auction, you are saying you WILL accept a price above whatever your reserve is. So a seller can set his reserve at whatever he wants and he will get at least that, assuming he can get bidders interested in it.

Once the item goes ABOVE the reserve, then the seller has the moral obligation to sell the item. And if he shills, he's artificially inflating the price he would get for it. Would he like it if a buyer to 'reverse shill' on him? You know - find a way to drive the price DOWN? Hell no, he wouldn't like it!

By the same token, the successful bidder is supposed to buy - it is a contract to buy when you enter a bid, just as it is a contract to sell if you are the seller.

NO - you can NOT just say, "I don't want it". Some low-life's do that and unless there is a problem with the product, you are supposed to buy it for what you bid.

The problem is that some people - like you apparently -think that, "Hey, I can bid what I want but if I don't want it, I don't have to buy it."

Well you sir are as low as the guy who shills his price. Shame on you too. :mad:
 
Raven said:
Yes, but more flawed logic. The point is, when you advertise for auction, you are saying you WILL accept a price above whatever your reserve is. So a seller can set his reserve at whatever he wants and he will get at least that, assuming he can get bidders interested in it.

Once the item goes ABOVE the reserve, then the seller has the moral obligation to sell the item. And if he shills, he's artificially inflating the price he would get for it. Would he like it if a buyer to 'reverse shill' on him? You know - find a way to drive the price DOWN? Hell no, he wouldn't like it!

I believe this was a no reserve auction and in this case he runs the risk of being the high bidder and eating the ebay fees. It looks like he was just trying to "get the auction moving" and not trying to push the interested bidders into a last minute bidding frenzy.

I've listed high dollar items on ebay before(non TR) and have bid on them with another account, but I list mine with a Reserve and typically have the Buy it Now $100 more then the reserve.
To get the auction rolling I may bid on the item pushing it close to the reserve, at this point either the next bid will go over the reserve or it forces them to use the BIN as they fear loosing the auction or it going over the BIN.
I never bid after the reserve to push the price farther up. In the end I get the sale, ebay gets their commision, and the buyer bid what he wanted with no gun to his head.

Next time use a friends account ;)
 
Raven said:
Yes, but more flawed logic. The point is, when you advertise for auction, you are saying you WILL accept a price above whatever your reserve is. So a seller can set his reserve at whatever he wants and he will get at least that, assuming he can get bidders interested in it.

Once the item goes ABOVE the reserve, then the seller has the moral obligation to sell the item. And if he shills, he's artificially inflating the price he would get for it. Would he like it if a buyer to 'reverse shill' on him? You know - find a way to drive the price DOWN? Hell no, he wouldn't like it!

By the same token, the successful bidder is supposed to buy - it is a contract to buy when you enter a bid, just as it is a contract to sell if you are the seller.

NO - you can NOT just say, "I don't want it". Some low-life's do that and unless there is a problem with the product, you are supposed to buy it for what you bid.

The problem is that some people - like you apparently -think that, "Hey, I can bid what I want but if I don't want it, I don't have to buy it."

Well you sir are as low as the guy who shills his price. Shame on you too. :mad:


By not purchasing what he is bidding on i meant the buyer doesnt have to outbid the other guy, no one is putting a gun to your head to keep bidding if the price goes up. Apparently people still think its worth the price if they continue bidding even after he has bid.

I dont see how you can say he is ripping people off, its his property, and he is selling it to make money, if you dont think thats fair then dont buy it.

Ive never sold anything on ebay nor have I purchased anything on ebay. The one time i did bid on something I set my own personal limit and the only activity on it was between myself and another guy, I decided I wasnt going to outbid him in the end, I still managed to jack up the price for this other guy considerably. What does it matter if it was me or the guy selling the item, the guy still paid what he thought was fair.

Im not condoning price shilling, because it kinda makes the concept of an "auction" a moot point.

I do think you are going overboard on this, the seller has no obligation to people who havent purchased his product.
 
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