Banned ffrom eBay

[Raven]

By not purchasing what he is bidding on i meant the buyer doesnt have to outbid the other guy, no one is putting a gun to your head to keep bidding if the price goes up. Apparently people still think its worth the price if they continue bidding even after he has bid.

I dont see how you can say he is ripping people off, its his property, and he is selling it to make money, if you dont think thats fair then dont buy it.

Ive never sold anything on ebay nor have I purchased anything on ebay. The one time i did bid on something I set my own personal limit and the only activity on it was between myself and another guy, I decided I wasnt going to outbid him in the end, I still managed to jack up the price for this other guy considerably. What does it matter if it was me or the guy selling the item, the guy still paid what he thought was fair.

Im not condoning price shilling, because it kinda makes the concept of an "auction" a moot point.

I do think you are going overboard on this, the seller has no obligation to people who havent purchased his product.

Well, if 'shilling' wasn't dishonest, immoral, and reprehensible, why hide it? Why not just say "The price on this item will be artificially inflated by the seller so that he can gouge you for more than you would have had to normally pay because he wants to take you for all he can!"? Huh?

So, 'going overboard' about a dirty trick is bad but shilling is 'ok' if you can get away with?

Your logic is stupid.

I HOPE you know why they hide and why eBay bans those that do it.

You're NEVER going to convince me or any other honest person that this is 'ok' to do and you will NEVER find a way to justify doing it .

 

[Yedi]

I love E-bay man, got some great deals there, I agree w/ everyone else, bidding on your own auction to raise the price is not cool. Just my opinion, if I found out this happened I would be very pissed. Why would you even bring this up in the open? My common sense tells me you could just open up another account ( might be a little shady, like a few of the people on e-bay, but I dont see why this isnt possibe, different name, account, address....) bottom line, it's wrong, dont screw people over, it will just come back to bite you in your As$........

Just my .02 not trying to piss anyone off.....

 

[DonnieShort]

I think I orignaly asked if anyone has been reinstated, not how wrong this was. I know it was wrong and I wont do it again. But I did not ask for your comments on how wrong this was, just if anyone has been reinstated.

True that might have been your original question but I hope you didn't kid yourself thinking that you wouldn't be called to task over what you did by posting this here.

 

[jpratt]

I did think about opening another account, but I thought I would just take the punishment that I deserve and hope to get reinstated. I did not realize the severity of what I was doing. I did wrong and I am willing to take the punishment for it. I posted the question has anybody ever been reinstated. I only shilled twice, even thought it is not different than doing it a hundred times. My feedback was all positive, never had a problem. Personal account open 3 years and only bought things, work account only open 4 weeks with 24 positive feedback. I posted 2 items then thought later after bidding had started that I did not want to sell them so cheap. I bid on them then very quickly was outbid. I saw no porblem with it at that time, BUT I do now. I am not complaining, just seeing if it is possible to get reinstated.


Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

 

[Pronto]

Dummy, everyone knows you to a friend bid it up, not yourself :biggrin:

 

[jdpolzin]

SORRY FOR ALL THE HARSH WORDS but we all buy a lot from E-bay, since were are in the car hobby. Parts cost us an arm and a leg as it is. If you want a certain dollar amount, don't put it on E-bay. Otherwise you are stealing from us. That the whole point of E-bay, AUCTIONING. BAD TOPIC TO START!!

 

[Louster38]

i dont condone the practice. but its not liked he forced anyone to bid more than they were willing to. he just made them pay the max they were willing. plus he did it early on, he didnt jack it up in the last minutes. its still wrong but what he did wasnt THAT terrible. he shouldnt be banned for life. people need to calm down. he says he wont do it again and why not believe him? if it was his common practice then maybe we could all yell and cry. and like i said the bidders CHOOSE to continue bidding in any shilling situation. so if they freely bid more at least half the blame is on them.

 

[suicide six]

I always felt that if you are selling something Buick related,then post it here first with your asking price,or at least taking offers.get your price,give a fellow member a needed item and follow thru with the sale.Leave some kind of feedback so others can weed out shaky buyers/sellers.Ebay has been getting out of control recently selling 95 million a day.

 

[Raven]

and like i said the bidders CHOOSE to continue bidding in any shilling situation. so if they freely bid more at least half the blame is on them.

Well, if they KNEW they were being shilled, do you think they would keep bidding?

You're as big an idiot as the thread starter - "Half the blame is on them".



If he wants a certain price, all he has to do is post it as "Buy it now!".

Shilling is dishonest, dishonest, DISHONEST. Don't do it; don't excuse it.

 

[jpratt]

I always felt that if you are selling something Buick related,then post it here first with your asking price,or at least taking offers.get your price,give a fellow member a needed item and follow thru with the sale.Leave some kind of feedback so others can weed out shaky buyers/sellers.Ebay has been getting out of control recently selling 95 million a day.

I agree. I sold a front frame brace here for a lot less than I could have maybe made on eBay. Ajoy bought it and far as I know is happy with the prcie I asked for it. I was getting ready to sell some "GNX style" Riken rims, but I guess everybody on here will think I am a scammer so I guess I will just keep em.

Raven, I agree it was dishonest and I did not think through what I was doing at that time. I agree it was not a good thing to do. Do you believe that good people make mistakes sometimes?

 

[2QUIK6]

In any auction, ebay or an actual attended auction, there are always people in the auction, either part of the auction company or with the seller that put in bids, this is how they guarantee a certain price and still get all of the "aww" over a "NO RESERVE" auction...thats exact why Barret -Jackson tells you over and over that "every car this year is going with No Reserve"..it brings out more people. My Mom worked with many auctioneers in the cattle business, I've seen it happen at many a car auction where you take notice who's bidding in the audience and see the same people bidding and then bowing out when the dollars get on up.

I'm sure it happens on ebay for big ticket items probably more than it does not. The bidder just needs to be aware of what could be going on and make sensible decisions on the price they put down that they want to pay.
As far as fee's, yes there are higher fees to put a reserve price, but if the reserve is met, that extra fee is dropped...so there is no argument for not putting a reserve on there if there's a set price you want.....but if the reserve is not met, you pay more fee's...just the gamble you take if there's a fixed price you want...its only a buck or two so why not....chances are the part is more than a few bucks so what's 1 or $2??

 

[Little6pack]

Try This Place

http://us.ebid.net/

 

[2QUIK6]

http://us.ebid.net/

That would be great if there are any users. I've been to this auction place before and there are 0 parts for a Grand National or Trans Am on there, and I did a few searches and have yet to see an item with any bids on it I check there periodically, but unless more people use it, ebay is the only game in town unfortunately for buyers and sellers.......
Although I read in the paper yesterday that Tiffanys has taken ebay to court for allowing fake jewlrey to be sold and is trying to force ebay to verifiy the authenticity of everything that is sold on there which would in effect put ebay out of business if the court rules in Tiffanies favor.
They claim that the fakes being sold on ebay are driving down their pricies for the real thing because the fakes are advertised as the real thing.

 

[jdpolzin]

Does anybody know what that BidSnype deal is? I know there is a website that has you put a max bid and will catch that bid price at the last second. What is the website for that? Guys at work talk about that all the time.

 

[tommynos]

Does anybody know what that BidSnype deal is? I know there is a website that has you put a max bid and will catch that bid price at the last second. What is the website for that? Guys at work talk about that all the time.

i use it its the best,instead of bidding against another guy you just put in a bid at the highest you want to pay,and at the last 2 seconds it puts in your bid,if your hi bidder you win...bidnappers.com..also ebay only threw him out because they didnt make more money by him putting a reserve,thats the only reason,not because they care about the buyer...also for the guy that wants to beat everyone up that shills :biggrin: good luck with that if the price gets to high and your still bidding,beat yourself up..it would be your own stupidity...now if there is a guy bidding you up by $1 or so and its past what he wanted,well he is in the wrong,but if your still bidding....what are you???i would rather bid my ad to my reserve than pay $80 for a reserve like i did on a $8000 item...i should have bid it up and saved the money...talk about shilling,look at the white t-type on ebay at 20+k..you think someone really is going to pay that...NO..he is bidding...

 

[NEWCHAPTER]

YOU SHOULD BE CANNED FOR LIFE, IT WAS NOT A MISTAKE YOU WERE DOING IT ON PURPOSE. ITS SCAMMERS LIKE YOU THAT GIVE EBAY A BAD REP...

 

[darkred87T]

Typical logic these days. That's quite a comparison.
1. I've never gotten a speeding ticket, and if so, I'd pay the fine.
2. If I got caught speeding, I wasn't ripping somebody off, or trying to.

Your logic is as warped as your deeds, so there's not much sense in trying to convince anyone of the seriousness of fraud, especially in this day and age.

Outa here.

Not ONE speeding ticket? Good for you. I couldn't begin to count how many Iv'e gotten over the years. LOL

 

[jdpolzin]

Anybody ever use the Bid Snipes? I would be afraid because you have to give them your Ebay password. Any luck for anyone? What site did you use?

 

[Louster38]

Well, if they KNEW they were being shilled, do you think they would keep bidding?

You're as big an idiot as the thread starter - "Half the blame is on them".



If he wants a certain price, all he has to do is post it as "Buy it now!".

Shilling is dishonest, dishonest, DISHONEST. Don't do it; don't excuse it.

you cant take one line from my post out of context. i never said it was honest, and i said i dont disagree with it. i just think its funny that people make it sound like he is forcing them to bid higher. if its going up, STOP BIDDING. if you keep bidding, you must still think it is a good price. i dont condone the practice, but i dont think he should be ostracized forever. If he ever shills again, THEN you can ban him from ebay forever. ONCE is a mistake. TWICE is the start of a pattern. people are being unreasonable.

 

[EGOKILR]

I would never give my Ebay password

Anybody ever use the Bid Snipes? I would be afraid because you have to give them your Ebay password. Any luck for anyone? What site did you use?

They have alot of people in other countries trying to get them ( passwords ) to mess up your account and order stuff to their country. My wife almost just got banned until Ebay fiquered out what was going on. They still try to get her to give up her password. NOT HAPPENING.