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The new Innovate MTX from Full Throttle works great, totally self contained with an analog out for PowerLogger. Under $200 too.
 
Another AEM here...easy to install and run to the Powerlogger.
 
i have an lc1 i have it logging off the scanmaster thru the powerlogger, works great with TT wideband chip you can tune your car to w.e parameter you want on WOT you can set a target A/F and have the computer sort it all out for you by w.e the wiedband feeds it, im actually running a used o2 sensor that was used for about a year or 2 and im having no issues with it i like the lc1 ive had the aem in an rx7 i like aem also but i prefer the lc1 thru scanmaster..the problem most people have with the innovative (lc1) is they dont go thru the cycle that needs to be done before installing it... seen it first hand people install it without reading instructions you have to go thru a heat cycle with the lc1 before installing it... mine has no problem and seen alot of abuse. i would highly recommend the lc1 but read and follow heat cycle instructions before you install.. on the manual it says if you dont go thru heat cycle it wont work right and will prematurely fail


This! Race gas eats any of the sensors. Very pleased with my LC1 and bought a replacement sensor for $38. Most parts stores carry them.

It is the upstream sensor for the following vehicles:
Audi TT 2002-2006
Volkswagen
Beetle, Beetle Turbo S 2002-2004
Eurovan 2001-2003
Golf 2000-2001
Golf GTI 1999-2005
Golf GTI 1.8T 2006
Jetta 2005
Jetta GL 2003
Jetta GLS 1999-2004
Jetta GLX 1999-2002
Jetta Wolfsburg Edition 2001
 
Is there anything that you can do with the AEM that you can't do with the PLX ?

Is there anything that you can do with the PLX that you can't do with the AEM?

Do these replace the stock O2 sensor? Or are they installed in addition to the stock O2 sensor?
 
Is there anything that you can do with the AEM that you can't do with the PLX ?

Is there anything that you can do with the PLX that you can't do with the AEM?

Do these replace the stock O2 sensor? Or are they installed in addition to the stock O2 sensor?

The wideband needs to go after the turbo. You keep the narrow band stock sensor in place. It's really easy to do a wideband. In fact, consider adding 2 bungs so you can dyno it and they can hook a second sensor up for logging on their equipment. Mark the downpipe where the bung should be welded, then remove downpipe and take it to a weld shop.
 
I'm running a Innovate Motorsports LC1/XD-16 gauge combo. I have had it for years without issue.

I am recommending to my customers who ask...... the AEM gauge.

Apparently, Innovate Motorsports wideband gauges on average (at least the older stuff) have been troublesome..... and from what I can tell based on the responses on their own message board, the customers feel like they are not getting good customer service.

It appears to me the AEM gauges are nice and there are alot of them out there.
 
Well I have been seeing a lots of posts from my question. Yet have I seen anyone post the install location and how they ran their wiring. So how about it?
 
I'm using AEM and it works great. To answer a previous question. Yes it works with the gen 2
 
Well I have been seeing a lots of posts from my question. Yet have I seen anyone post the install location and how they ran their wiring. So how about it?


you can see where my sensor is in this video (you may notice I have 2 bungs installed)



I ran the wiring thru the speedo cable grommet.


Bob
 
Bob,

Is that about 8 inches from the turbo? I have heard that Hartline runs his at 8" and some say 18". What is correct?
 
I don't know how far exactly, I put it as far from the turbo as I could, without having to go under the car.

Bob
 
Here's where mine is located. Wont get overheated here....

As far as wiring goes, it'll vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. They're pretty simple though, you'll need to supply power and ground. And most have at least one output for the wideband signal, and another output that can be a simulated narrowband, or another wideband output.

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I've had my PLX SM-AFR installed since the summer of 2009 and no problems. Very easy to install. I put my wideband sensor in the botton of the downpipe, 4-5" from the end where the dump tube is. Sensor is in the 2 o' clock position, frame rail side. No problems with rain or anything, the framerail right there acts as a shield of sorts. I just drilled a small hole in the floorpan. Nothing that can be welded back up.

Wiring was easy. +12 volts and ground to the controller, gray wire (i think) went to the PowerLogger block, and you ground that as well. Then plug in the sensor harness and run it to the sensor. There is enough wiring to route it out into the engine bay and down, but at the time I installed mine; I was pressed for time.

No free air calibration needed, just install it and go. I think the sensor is used in a 3.5 Caddilac CTS. I'm still on my original sensor, with alot of 93 octane and methanol ran through it.
 
Bob, Dave, and Scott.... Thanks for the input. That is what I am wanting to see and helps me out.

Now if anyone else want to chime in, then do so. Thanks!
 
AEM with gauge on my TR and AEM inline on my Dad's TPI Camaro with Gen II translator. No calibration needed and easy to install. Both have been super reliable as in 0 problems with 30k miles between us.
 
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