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Not sure what that rubber piece is? Doesn't look like something that would come off a valve seal? maybe part of an oil breather grommet? but at any rate now is a good time to stop and take a breath. I can tell this car is very important to you and you're working diligently to fix the issue. I have the same tendency but I catch myself going too fast and overlooking things.

Go back to what Bison said, remove the valve covers and look in between the springs at the seals. With the motor in the car do some stretches first so you don't pull any muscles. But get in there and get a peak at every one of them. They're dirt cheap to buy if you need to replace them. I would look for assistance from someone who's handled this task before if you haven't. Do it once.

Unhook your downpipe from below and come up top and pull it off the turbo. Take your time, put some penetrant on the bolts the night before, they'll fight you more than likely.

Since we don't know what that rubber is in the valve cover area you must pull the oil pan. All that oil you sucked up in the head is normal and it flows carrying everything with it. It will get in your pick up screen and stay there.

Here is a reference, this is my motor this spring. The machine work was pore at best when the PO built it and it ate itself up. Too bad it was on my watch but you get the idea. I did not put that material there, it was stuck there. Study this picture very carefully, look through the entire engine and count how many pieces of bearing you see other than the pickup screen. Kind of like where' Waldo. It's everywhere. You can't afford not to remove the pan at this point. I don't want to see you ruin a good engine over some oil and a $27 gasket.



Nice job on looking for the little things first but now it's time to slow down or even step back, then follow Bison's advice and I'll bet you find the issue and fix it before you need a cherry picker.

I've been without my car all year. I only got to drive it a few months last year after I bought it. Just got my stroker done and I'm pretty pumped to drive it as you can imagine. I have an oil leak that's got me a little concerned and I was determined to fix it speeding through the process like I have a tendency to do. I have a friend that's an engine builder and machinist for 40 years, (his son built my motor) I look to him for advice all the time, well he gave me some the other day. In a nut shell he said "Slow Down" so I'm passing it on to you.

My car will stay in the shop until I get my issue resolved. No more driving it.

Good luck to you and don't get discouraged. Sometimes it seems like board members can get on you a little bit to make sure you do it right. The real enthusiasts do it because they care about your situation not because they want to pick on you, they don't have time for that. Bison is one of those guy's from what I've seen. There are many more floating around but don't post because us new guy's don't listen too good. You're a good guy and I remember your first thread when you bought the car. Reminded me of me when I got mine. We just need to remember to listen a little better and slow down.
 
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Thanks for the advice. Im certainly not trying to rush anything. I put the valve cover back on because I did not have time to do any more work for the night and didn't want the car to sit with open valve train for however long it takes me to get back to it. The car is stored outside and anytime my neighbor cuts the grass it flies all over the place and I just don't need that risk. Theres no point in me poking around when I had no idea what to look for but now I do and will go back to it. No big deal it was the drivers side VC anyway.

The difficulty in seeing down in the springs is that they are the upgraded comp cams version with the internal damper. I tried using a dental mirror but unless I'm looking down into the spring and not outside around them its not gonna be possible to see the seals. I am going to purchase a more powerful flashlight but am wondering if it would just be easier to do a leak down test to see if the problem is rings or seals?

And then there was the frustration of the car not starting. I ended up pushing it back to its parking spot in the driveway almost a mile from where I was working on it. (my buddies garage) I'm thinking either a relay went bad or the fuel pump died. It is a racetronix double pumper setup so I switched pumps and it worked again but the pump that I switched to primary will not provide enough pressure to keep up with boost. Looks like either both pumps are now dead or a relay popped. Will need to locate some schematics to troubleshoot.

I don't mind pulling the pan but I'd like to figure out what is causing the smoke first as a leak down test becomes problematic with no oil in the engine. No I am not driving it right now don't worry!
 

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Good to hear! Tough doing these types of things and not having a good place to work on it. Been there done that.

I'm pretty sure I'm in for a pan gasket at this point but am also suspicious of the front seal and or fuel block off plate. Installed the fuel block off plate on the stand and then a few days later when it came time for the fuel lines I had to remove a bolt to secure them and maybe disturbed the gasket. Newbie error but it was my first time putting one of these back together so I visited a few bolts several times.
 
Well got the leak-down done yesterdat (for the price of the test + $20 I could have bought a cheap compressor and the leak down tester :/ live and learn i guess) Looks like cylinder number 2 has 90% leakage. They brought me back in the shop so I could hear it hiss down into the crank case. We're looking at doing a hone and re-ring. The machine shop owner says that its likely that the bores are in good condition and to hold off on ordering over-size pistons until they check it out.

The debate now is whether I should take the car to them and have them do all the work in pulling the motor and machine work. Or if I can pull the motor myself I'll save a lot of money. Just gotta do my research and decide if it's something I am capable of. I have pulled a motor before but I had lots of help and it was in my '70 mustang. Very simple in that car.

Can you guys advise me as to what else I should do while the motor is out? I'm definitely planning to upgrade the timing set. Not sure if I should use a double roller set or not but definitely want to get rid of the plastic parts. Whats a good source for these?

I plan on doing ARP studs and the RJC head-gaskets. Would now be a good time to get a girdle installed? The car is mostly a driver but should be capable of low 11's with my combo. I'm definitely shooting for reliability over ET's.

I managed to get my hands on a set of Stage 2 motor mounts made by hrpartsnstuff for a good price. Will these work with my stock 87 GN block (109 I believe?) If not, would anyone be willing to trade or purchase these?

Anything else I may need? The valve train is solid so only looking at short-block upgrades.

If I decide to pull the motor would anyone be willing to give me a hand? I'd pay your gas and dinner. Even just an extra set of experienced eyes would help me.
 
Put that thing on a trailor and drag it down here and we can do it. I am hr from Richmond of route 460.
 
Put that thing on a trailor and drag it down here and we can do it. I am hr from Richmond of route 460.

Would you be okay with storing it while the machine work was being done or would I have to bring it back down when the engine is done?
 
Sorry to hear about the motor, I had a similar experience after purchasing my car last year with a bearing failure.

Pulling these motors isn't real hard just a lot of small details that slow you down a bit. If you have some experienced help it will be a breeze.
 
Sorry to hear about the motor, I had a similar experience after purchasing my car last year with a bearing failure.

Pulling these motors isn't real hard just a lot of small details that slow you down a bit. If you have some experienced help it will be a breeze.

Its easy to get distressed and angry when things go wrong. But at the end of the day, I still own the car I've dreamed of since I was a kid. I've learned tons in just a few short months and am about to learn a lot more. So for me, its all an opportunity to learn and a huge blessing to be able to enjoy the entire process! ;)
 
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