Did they really NOT make any T Types in 1987??

[Camfreek]

I have a guy buy me who has a car for sale. He clearly states that they only made the buick Grand National in 1987 and no T types. I am kinda lost.

I know 84/85 T Types and Grand Nationals

I always thought 86/86 Turbo Buick, T Type and the Grand National.

I guess I am wrong on that? I was looking to buy a 1987 T Type a few towns over, but then that would make him a lair then according to this guy.

Right??

 

[qwks6]

that's correct, only 1986 was an intercooled t-type.

in 1987 they changed the name to turbo-T

Same exact car except for the little badge on the fender

 

[Camfreek]

So what does....

What does the WO2 rpo code mean???

 

[salvageV6]

That's the black out trim code.

Search feature should give you exactly what came with that package.

 

[dwall]

Exterior Sport Package..

What does the WO2 rpo code mean???

Aka - blackout trim

Reference:

Buick Turbo Regal Option Codes (Regular Production Options - RPO)

HTH

 

[benoitthegr8]

There has been previous threads about this subject... from way it was explained an 87 WE4 car is classified as a Turbo-T, all other 87 LC2 powered Regal's (excluding GN/GNX) are considered a Regal W/T-package. However, there were a limited number V8 Regal's that were also T-package cars. Please correct me if I'm wrong....

 

[Anthony P]

I have a guy buy me who has a car for sale. He clearly states that they only made the buick Grand National in 1987 and no T types. I am kinda lost.

I know 84/85 T Types and Grand Nationals

I always thought 86/86 Turbo Buick, T Type and the Grand National.

I guess I am wrong on that? I was looking to buy a 1987 T Type a few towns over, but then that would make him a lair then according to this guy.

Right??

A liar? Well, not exactly. The majority of people call a GN a GN. Any other '87 turbo Buick is called a T-Type, which is not exactly correct. The '87 T-Type for sale may be just a plain Regal with the turbo engine; it could be a Regal Limited with the turbo engine or a Regal with the T-package (code Y56, with or without the WO2 blackout trim package) or even a real Turbo-T model (WE4 code - started production in Dec '86).

For the 1987 model year, the former "T-Type" model of standard options was replaced by the individual option codes and smaller special option groups - like Y56 and WO2.

The above post is correct about V8 powered Regals using the Olds 307 cid engine could be ordered with the Y56 option.

 

[TURBOV8R]

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/ge...278309-t-type-turbo-t-production-numbers.html

Hard to tell......

 

[Camfreek]

Ok

So basically there is no T Type for the 87 model year?

The T Type only ran from 84-86?

Boy am I lost

 

[Junior Samples]

The T-Type badge in 87 came with the 307

 

[bison]

The T-Type badge in 87 came with the 307

Nope. Still a T. No Regal T-types in 87 model year. T package was available without the LC2 engine. The other engine that came with the T was the 307. If it has LC2 on the sticker and the VIN matches the cowl it came with a 3.8 turbo engine. Therefore it is a Turbo T. The WE4 was the only one that could not be ordered with a 307 therefore they are all turbo t's as delivered from GM. Most still just call them t-types though

 

[Junior Samples]

Nope. Still a T. No Regal T-types in 87 model year. T package was available without the LC2 engine. The other engine that came with the T was the 307. If it has LC2 on the sticker and the VIN matches the cowl it came with a 3.8 turbo engine. Therefore it is a Turbo T. The WE4 was the only one that could not be ordered with a 307 therefore they are all turbo t's as delivered from GM. Most still just call them t-types though

the frankenstein I have is an 87 t-type which came with the 307...since converted to lc2 My book shows the t-type for 87 and how many were produced but i dont have it in hand...who knows..lol... well Eric would

 

[Junior Samples]

In 1986, a modified engine design with intercooling boosted the performance even further; in 1987 it reached 245 hp (183 kW) and 355 lb·ft (481 N·m) of torque. Buick dropped the T-Type package for Regal in 1987. There were only 7,896 Turbo Regals produced in 1986. In 1987, when Turbo Regals reached their peak in popularity, a total of 27,590 Turbo Regals were produced through December.


ya got me boggled, maybe mine is a late 86 sold as an 87 but built in 85...lol

 

[bison]

the frankenstein I have is an 87 t-type which came with the 307...since converted to lc2 My book shows the t-type for 87 and how many were produced but i dont have it in hand...who knows..lol... well Eric would

What book? My father ordered many regals since he was the new car manager at the dealership. There was definitely no regal t-types in 87. The riviera, lesabre, and the electra still used the t-type designations and it was a package just like the in previous years.

 

[rodman99999]

I used to buy cars for a used car lot at auctions, and lost track of how many Buicks I've seen(besides Regals) that were badged, "T-Type." I owned a factory '87 Olds V8 engined parts car(bought for the WO2 grille, console and black-out pieces), and now own an '87 Turbo 'T'. Both came from the factory with the same 'T' badges. All the various T-Type models had a stiffer suspension and appearance(bucket seat/console shift/etc) package that made them a "Touring" or "T-Type" Buick. To me the car I own now is a Turbo 'T', and the parts car was an '87 V8 "T-Type". If They didn't want them called that, they shoulda put some other letter on the badge(semantic gymnastics). This site lists the various models that were available with the "T-Type" package, the first being the Riv: (T-Type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

 

[Bweavy]

the frankenstein I have is an 87 t-type which came with the 307...since converted to lc2 My book shows the t-type for 87 and how many were produced but i dont have it in hand...who knows..lol... well Eric would

Eric & I just discussed this.The book states T package. Not turbo T, Not t-type Just T package. I always called them T's myself. We also found out you could order it with a 3.8 non turbo. Though neither one of us have seen this package with a V-6 N/A. I have owned about 5 of them & they all had 307's. But the option was there for it.
Quoted from Steve Dove's Facts & figures book.

 

[turbofish38]

...who knows..lol... well Eric would

The way I look at it.......Are there any emblems or name plates on an 87 Regal that say "T-TYPE"? No. No mention of any Regal T-Types in the 1987 Dealer Order Album either.

FWIW Buick made 1,697 NA Regal "T"s in 1987. Nice going buddy hacking up a pefectly good 307 powered Regal! That's almost as rare as a WE4. LOL!

And I wonder about the other T-Types in 1987. No mention of any Riviera,Electra or Skyhawk T-Types in the Dealer Album either. One thing in common.No T-TYPE badging either. Just the LeSabre T-Type.

You know T-Type along with GS and GranSport are synonymous with Buick so most people don't have clue what the letter "T" really means.

 

[Junior Samples]

Eric & I just discussed this.The book states T package. Not turbo T, Not t-type Just T package. I always called them T's myself. We also found out you could order it with a 3.8 non turbo. Though neither one of us have seen this package with a V-6 N/A. I have owned about 5 of them & they all had 307's. But the option was there for it.
Quoted from Steve Dove's Facts & figures book.

Talking to Eric online I had always figured he looked something up real quick or had it stored in his hard drive....then I met him and was like $hit...this dude has it all retained to memory

Eric has seen my T with what came with a 307 but of course..thats long been disposed of

 

["Turbo-T"]

1987 was a funky year for the Regal body line.

A GN was a GN, a GNX was a GNX, but the name "T-type" was said to have been dropped, HOWEVER you could get a 3.8 turbo for the first time in ANY 2 door Regal, but if you did, you HAD to get the Y56 T package.

So in other words, you couldn't get a grandma type Regal with the flat hood, 5 spoke Buick rallys and no "T" badge on the front fenders and be able to get the LC2 option.

And to add to the confusion, yes you could get the T package on a 307 powered Regal in 1987. Which IMO was for those that wanted a cool looking car but either wanted V8 power (albeit poor V8 power) or couldn't afford the LC2 option, which IIRC costed more than the 307 option. I was not aware until now that even a 3.8 n/a car could have come with the Y56 package.

So IMO even though it's an '87 and doesn't exactly say "T type" on it, it's essentially a T type, or Turbo T, however you want to call it. It has most, if not everything the 1986 T type's had.

Sad thing is most only know what a GN or a GNX is, half know a T type. Almost no one knows what a "Regal T" or "Turbo T" is.

Then again, how many here want to argue the 1962-1968 Chevy II's were all Novas?