Wow, I’m not sure how to respond to this. I have been a GSCA member since I bought my car in 2000. I’ve attended the GSCA nationals 4 times since. Is this the treatment I am to expect from GSCA staff towards its members???
Why would I want to continue being a member of a club that conducts itself in such a manner? A club that allows its representatives to belittle and threaten physical harm to its members like you did here in this thread? How would they expect to retain their current membership, but to increase it as well??
Wow!!
Before I get too upset let me address a couple of the comments you made in your first post...
1) "When you went to the tower and asked the track staff where the Race Director Jim Rodgers was you had your facts wrong. Jim Rodgers is not the Race Director."
You are correct, I did go to the tower and ask for Jim Rodgers. This was because I was told by other racers that Jim Rodgers was the one I wanted to talk to. I didn't know till later, and after you told me "to get out of here", that YOU were the director. If a general racers meeting were held, that problem wouldn’t have happened.
A general racers meeting? How about looking through your packet and or checking the website to see who is who. There is already too much going on for us to add a general racers meeting so that you don't have to do to much on your own. It would take an hour to get everyone together and then another 30 minutes to introduce myself and the like. The RRA's run the heads up classes but if you have suggestions regarding the brackets I am all ears. I would never turn down a good idea. I would love to have RRA's for the bracket classes.
2) "When I was standing 4 feet from you while Brock (Track staff) explained to you that the card another gent drew just happened to be your number in line, that they would pull you out and IF there were not enough cars to pair up that you would get a by run at the end of that bracket you proceeded to go on about how he told you that you had a by run period and I find it amazing that you were the only one that could not pay attention to that fact. You were wrong yet, I offered to try and offer you a condolence prize even though I clearly heard what he said and you had your facts confused yet again. After you telling me what you were going to do that is when I told you - c'ya."
YOU ARE WRONG JIM. You were NOT there when I was first told I had a by-run. The gentleman that presented me with the car told me that I had a by-run, to pull up under the tower, and once all the cars in the class ran that I would be asked to pull to the line and make the by-run. He said NOTHING else. I did EXACTLY as told, and no one told me that anything had changed (How hard would it have been to say something?). Again, if a general racers meeting were held, that problem might not have happened.
Yet again you have your facts confused. I was standing roughly four feet from Brock when he told you that your car number in line was the same as the car number and what was going on. On top of that when you kept on about being told you had a by run you even went so far as to tell ME that I was the one that told you that. Brock laughed and stated that no he was and you just stood there without comment.
A condolence prize? What are you talking about? You never said anything of the sort? Beside, I didn’t want a prize… I wanted to race! I worked on my car for months getting it ready for this race. I spent thousands of dollars on parts, and thousands of dollars on the trip to Bowling Green. All that to get knocked out in the first round due to miscommunication between track staff and racers – something that was out of my control.
The bottom line is that it was within your control and if you had paid attention this would not be an issue. You never let me tell you what the club was prepared to do because you were too busy telling me how everyone was wrong. After try to explain it to you THREE time I gave up and asked you to pull your car out. When you sat there looking at me without comment I then told you to pull it out. I will not hold everyone else up due to arguing with you.
P.S. How many by-runs did the Regal Modified class have in the 1st round? I heard 3, and that 1st round would be run again (I didn’t witness this first hand, but was told this by two racers there Saturday). Is that correct? If so, then how flawless is your by-run card presentation?
What has this got to due with the price of tea in China or for what happened to you for that fact. There was a snafu in that class and it was straightened out. I have yet to hear from one of the racers in that class about anything and until I do I don't see an issue with it. You are trying to use that as an venue to continue on your tyrade about the GSCA.
3) "Then you tell Richard Lassiter that I told you that you had a by run. Wrong yet again. Brock even stated that he was the one that told you about the by run gamblers card."
That is ABSOLUTELY false. I never spoke with Richard Lassiter. He rode off on his mini bike before I could speak to him, and that was after you blew up (like you also did here in this forum) and told me to “get this car out of here, I don’t have time for this anymore”.
That is not my understanding but I did not personally see you speak with him so I will concede that fact. However, when you sit there arguing with me even though I tried to find a medium I don't have time to do so. Every time I tried to tell you what was going on you simply interjected with "He told me I had a by run". I gave up.
P.S. What's a "by run gamblers card"? Please don't tell me that it was a way that I could have gotten into another race/class, because that's what I asked YOU. I asked if there was any way that I could buy back into the class or jump to another bracket. You said NO.
Google it under bracket racing. I said no because if I let you do so then I stand the potential for there to be other problems should something happen with another racer. It is not rocket science.
Finishing, I’d just like to say that what you obviously don't seem to remember that this (the GSCA Nats) is an event for CLUB members. Granted, there are a lot of seasoned and professional racers there, BUT there are also a lot of less experienced racers too. This is something you guys should always keep that in mind. Taking a little extra time to explain things to everyone would pay off in the long run and help avoid situations like this.
Conducting yourself like you’ve been doing does nothing but alienate fellow club members, make the club look bad, and make you look like a fool.
Regards,
-Banning Cohen.
Banning, I realize what the club is and I also realize that just because it is for the members does not give you the right to stir up sh*t regarding payouts over having your own issues about being put out. It is the typical tactics that I have seen again and again. Prime example, it was thought that the club need stricter safety enforcement and that someone else to handle the payouts. As such the club turns over the final safety inspection per class to the class and people still bash the club. All sponsored payout are now handled between the sponsors and the racers and still you have something to say. The bottom line is that there are a minorty of crabs (and I say crabs because ya'll like to come at folks sideways never showing your true intentions.) that want to polute the entire community with your rhetoric. I will let you in on a secret. Years ago I went to a Super Chevy show and they treated some folks including myself badly. I don't go around bashing them and stating how everyone should boycott them and the like. I just don't go, it is plain and simple. Within the Buick community there is a minority to love to stir up the pot to promote their own agenda, whether it be to promote another event or just to jump on the bandwagon with their buddies to seek approval they continue on. These actions have devided this community to the point that it may or may not be repaired. As such those of us that choose to go to the Nats will continue to do so until it is no longer possible and I am sure withhout doubt that there are those of you who will contiue to sling sh*t from your soap boxes.
As for looking like a fool, if you are refering to the issues between myself and two of the other members here I will let you in on a little secret. That has nothing to do with my position within the GSCA nor the Nats. It has only to do with me being sick and tired of watching them year after year degrading others and laughing at their expense. As far as looking like a fool...... Well I guess sometimes you just have to take the good with the bad. You take care.
Jim C.
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