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Let me explain my feelings of this so called theory of relativity......

All other fundamental laws of science are easy enough for any 4th grader to understand. For all actions there is a equal and opposite reaction. Matter in motion stays in motion untill a force is applied and vice/versa..on and on

What is this E=MC2 crap??

OK, let me quickly give an example to challenge this "claim"

I have two titanium bowling balls.
They weigh the exact same, both are on earth in the same atmospheric pressure, etc....

According to Einstein, to calculate their total ENERGY, you simply square the Mass times the speed of light.

HMmmmmm.

OK, I'm now going to place one bowling ball into an oven and heat to 2500C.
The other bowling ball I'm going to freeze untill 0 Kelvin.

The HOT ball, I will now float on an electro-magnetic base, and apply a spinning rubber wheel to accelorate the ball to 20,000 RPM.


Ok, the other ball is just stationary, and chilled to absolute dead 0 kelvin, or whatever they call it.



Now, which ball has more energy??
If you believe Einstein, they must have the same???
Bull crap!

There are many other considerations to find the energy of matter. What about matter exposed to radiation?

Is the speed of light changing or different from day to day? If not, why bother to multiply the mass by a constant number??
Just simply say "Energy is equal to Mass", because that's basicaly all I hear that whack job saying. He ignors, motion, heat, radiation, and I don't know what else??


Discuss......


(My own theory, Scott)
SHAMWOW
 
Not to be adick or anything, but what theorys have you came up with??:tongue: . He's Einstien for christ's sake, his farts make more sense than most people :eek:

Shamwow............................Now theres a good theory :biggrin:

Edit: I dont think 0 kelvin is even possible. Its like trying to pull a perfect vacuum.
 
Last I knew the scientists proved him right.

You should spend more time getting that bad a$$ TSM car finished up you were working on.
 
The equation calculates total energy. You are trying to energize one ball by applying forces to it, but nothing can be accelerated faster than the speed of light which the calculations are based off so total energy remains the same. Now if you want to argue about adding energy to one ball, its mass would increase proportionately with the increase in energy, so ball one could have more energy than ball two; however, it would have to be more massive than ball two.
 
Last I knew the scientists proved him right.

You should spend more time getting that bad a$$ TSM car finished up you were working on.

I realized that takes more money/talent than I had in 2006.
I sold all toys except boat before they fell in value too much.
doubled business in 2007
quadroupled my business in 2008.
Going to do the same next year.

I can't wait to get my toys back! My old Buick is a few miles from my house, last time I checked.
Still needs a racing short-block. That's about it.
 
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalence

Don't think in Newtonian terms...

If a force is applied to an object in the direction of motion, the object gains momentum. It also gains energy because the force is doing work. But an object cannot be accelerated above the speed of light, regardless of how much energy it absorbs. Its momentum and energy continue to increase, but its speed approaches a constant value – the speed of light. This means that in relativity the momentum of an object cannot be a constant times the velocity, nor is the kinetic energy given by ½mv2. (The latter is just a very good low-velocity approximation.)

The relativistic mass is defined as the ratio of the momentum of an object to its velocity, and it depends on the motion of the object relative to the observer. If the object is moving slowly, the relativistic mass is nearly equal to the rest mass and both can be considered equal to the usual Newtonian mass. If the object is moving quickly, the relativistic mass is greater than the rest mass. As the object approaches the speed of light, the relativistic mass tends towards infinity. When a force acts in the direction of motion, the relativistic mass goes up and the momentum goes up, but the speed hardly increases.

The relativistic mass is always equal to the total energy divided by c2 shown as: m = E/c2 The difference between the relativistic mass and the rest mass is the relativistic kinetic energy (divided by c2). Because the relativistic mass is exactly proportional to the energy, relativistic mass and relativistic energy are nearly synonyms; the only difference between them is the units. If length and time are measured in natural units, the speed of light is equal to 1, and even this difference disappears. Then mass and energy have the same units and are always equal, so it is redundant to speak about relativistic mass, because it is just another name for the energy.

For this reason, in relativity people almost always reserve the useful short word "mass" to mean the rest mass. The rest mass of an object is the relativistic mass as measured when moving along with the object. By definition, rest mass is the same in all inertial frames. For a system of particles going off in different directions, the invariant mass is the analog of the rest mass, and it is defined as the total energy (divided by c2) in the center of mass frame.

Mass–energy equivalence says that a "body" (i.e. a mass) has a certain energy, even when it isn't moving. In Newtonian mechanics, a massive body at rest has no kinetic energy, and it may or may not have other (relatively small) amounts of internal stored energy such as chemical energy or thermal energy, in addition to any potential energy it may have from its position in a field of force. In Newtonian mechanics, none of these energies contributes to the mass.

In relativity, all the energy which moves along with a body adds up to the total energy of the body, which is proportional to the relativistic mass. Even a single photon traveling in empty space has a relativistic mass, which is its energy divided by c2. If a box of ideal mirrors contains light, the mass of the box is increased by the energy of the light, since the total energy of the box is its mass.
 
IM still trying to catch a damn bass with these cheesy helicoptor lures:D

maybe i should take a flying banjo and a helicoptor lure..melt em together and make a flying banjoptor
 
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