GT6162 replaces GT6152

[NVRL8]

I was ready to do the turbo upgrade and was pretty sure I was gonna go with a GT6152. My understanding is that PTE has a new version of the 6152 called the 6162 with "Boosted" technology. Can anyone shed some light on what is different about the new turbo and what "Boosted" technology is?

 

[GNVYUS 1]

Talk to Pete at PTE but I heard it has to do with better exhaust wheels, less backpressure and better spooling.

The 67 in the .63 sounds like the King of the Streets Turbo if the wheels are making more power and spooling earlier. :biggrin:

A Ball Bearing version of that might act like the old TE63 or smaller.

I would go bigger since you already have a TA49, might want to talk to them about the 67 in the .63.

 

[BlackMetal]

Haha, every time I think I know what turbo I want, something else comes along. I was set on a 6152... now I gotta figure out what this 6162 is about.

 

[GNVYUS 1]

NVRL8, to give you an example, the TA49 has a 60-1 compressor wheel and is now three models away from the newest PTE turbos. So going from a 60-1 wheel to a 61mm wheel is not a big jump, then add in the technology is making the wheel combos spool faster and make more power and you pretty much have a wash on spool up. So this would be a good time to move up to a 67 and take advantage of the faster spooling wheel combos while making even more power than ever.

The 67,68 and 70 are all on the list this summer.

 

[Mike Licht]

I believe the new 67 and 68 will be HOT next year.
Mike

 

[John Wilde]

I believe the new 67 and 68 will be HOT next year.
Mike

Brand T wheels?

 

[Mike Licht]

Nope, new G and P

Mike

 

[John Wilde]

Nope, new G and P

Mike

Thanks for the heads up buddy!

 

[NVRL8]

Haha, every time I think I know what turbo I want, something else comes along. I was set on a 6152... now I gotta figure out what this 6162 is about.

I hope turbos aren't like computers... when you blink there is something faster and better and yours is old technology.

NVRL8, to give you an example, the TA49 has a 60-1 compressor wheel and is now three models away from the newest PTE turbos. So going from a 60-1 wheel to a 61mm wheel is not a big jump, then add in the technology is making the wheel combos spool faster and make more power and you pretty much have a wash on spool up. So this would be a good time to move up to a 67 and take advantage of the faster spooling wheel combos while making even more power than ever.

The 67,68 and 70 are all on the list this summer.

What size converter would you say with my combo and the 67? I need my combo to be VERY streetable.

Mike Licht, I will be in contact soon :biggrin:

 

[BlackMetal]

I hope turbos aren't like computers... when you blink there is something faster and better and yours is old technology.

Haha I don't think the turbo market moves quite that fast, but they are always working on new technology. These new boosted turbos should be popular for a while.

 

[GNVYUS 1]

Mike can hook you up on both a new 67 in the .63 and a Precision 3200.

I plan on locking the converter at the track and the dyno so I got the 5 disc but it's not needed if you just plan on locking it on the street in 4th for fuel economy.

 

[Scott89TTA]

What size converter would you say with my combo and the 67? I need my combo to be VERY streetable.

Pretty much the same as my combo...Mike helped me pick out. 6776BB 3200 stall, 6776e (standard journal) ~3500 stall. I already had the 3500 stall billet 9/11 convertor so I went with the GT6776e per Mike's suggestion. He said I wouldn't be sorry :biggrin:

Now i just need to install everything and see for myself

Scott

 

[cstavro]

the hp57 wheel is smaller than the t350 or t31 wheel (used in 6152 and 6131, respectively). it should spool faster, although pte isn't quoting better numbers. pte rates the 6162 at 10 more hp than the 6152 - 640 hp. it may come with more low/mid range torque as well.

the new 6157 makes the same hp as the 6152, but spools much faster. the bb version works with stock torque converters my turbo has arrived!

the 6776 uses the 76.2/66.4mm vs the 6765 which uses a 74/64.5mm turbine. again, same power, better spool.

 

[NVRL8]

I appreciate all the info.

Pretty much the same as my combo...Mike helped me pick out. 6776BB 3200 stall, 6776e (standard journal) ~3500 stall. I already had the 3500 stall billet 9/11 convertor so I went with the GT6776e per Mike's suggestion. He said I wouldn't be sorry :biggrin:

What are the characteristics of that stall on the street (i.e. how does it drive and feel)?

 

[BlackMetal]

6157... 6162... choices choices.

 

[Scott89TTA]

I appreciate all the info.



What are the characteristics of that stall on the street (i.e. how does it drive and feel)?

Pretty much the same as my combo...Mike helped me pick out. 6776BB 3200 stall, 6776e (standard journal) ~3500 stall. I already had the 3500 stall billet 9/11 convertor so I went with the GT6776e per Mike's suggestion. He said I wouldn't be sorry :biggrin:

Now i just need to install everything and see for myself

I'll let you know early Spring

Give Mike a call at Full Throttle he will fill you in...like I said he convinced me to go this route.

-Scott

 

[cstavro]

can someone please explain the spool and hp characteristics of .63 vs .85 a/r turbine housings, and E vs S covers.

i.e. is the 3200 stall and 640 hp figure with .63 a/r and E cover? what would stall and hp be with .85 a/r and S cover? what about .63 a/r and the S cover? i don't see anyone using the E cover/.85 a/r combo. tia

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

OK, so now my question is, since the 6162 will have better wheels and supposed to make more power over the 6152....

What are they going to call it when they decide to make it a ball bearing turbo? Or is the BB turbo out already?

Currently my car has a TA61 with the garret exhaust housing, the stock convertor spools it decent with the use of the RJC bleeder valve. The first time to the track its best was:

60' 1.569
330 4.577
1/8 7.12 at 95.62
1000 9.334
1/4 11.195
121.17

Now if i can buy a larger 6162 BB with the precision housing, and it spools just as fast as my TA61 with the stock housing, i would be happy.
Im not sure if the BB would spool as fast as the garrett housing

I really want a bigger turbo, but dont want to change the convertor till the tranny takes a dump.

Any help?

BW

 

[BlackMetal]

can someone please explain the spool and hp characteristics of .63 vs .85 a/r turbine housings, and E vs S covers.

i.e. is the 3200 stall and 640 hp figure with .63 a/r and E cover? what would stall and hp be with .85 a/r and S cover? what about .63 a/r and the S cover? i don't see anyone using the E cover/.85 a/r combo. tia

I don't know enough about turbos to give you exact numbers, but the higher A/R number will definitely affect your spool-up. For the most part, any Buick turbo marketed towards "street car" owners is going to be .63 a/r for the benefit of spool-up. Most guys are making big power/times at the track before going to .85, at least from what I've seen.

I don't think the cover affects spool as much, I'd say the main thing is to match the existing plumbing in your car so you have efficient air/exhaust flow. No point having a huge turbo outlet if it's going to be crammed into smaller intercooler piping.

 

[BlackMetal]

OK, so now my question is, since the 6162 will have better wheels and supposed to make more power over the 6152....

What are they going to call it when they decide to make it a ball bearing turbo? Or is the BB turbo out already?

Now if i can buy a larger 6162 BB with the precision housing, and it spools just as fast as my TA61 with the stock housing, i would be happy.
Im not sure if the BB would spool as fast as the garrett housing

I really want a bigger turbo, but dont want to change the convertor till the tranny takes a dump.

The 6162 is already available with the ballbearing option, I guess it would be "called" GT6162RS or GT6162RE depending on which cover you go with. The FullThrottle item description says the BB can work with a 2800 stall. If you're used to spooling a TA61 with the stock converter, I don't think you'll notice much more lag going with a 6162BB.

Frankly you open up a world of options if you work on your transmission BEFORE waiting for it to blow up. Trying to figure out how far you can go with the stock converter is limiting your potential, plus if you buy a turbo for your stock converter and then finally decide to build the trans, you'll just have to go turbo shopping all over again.