Hey Nick TA cover??
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I'm pretty sure there is an machine etching on the water pump mating surface on the rightside, should read TA 1530.
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You are correct, that number and location is proper.
A TA cover for a turbo application will also have 3 screws to retain the front seal from blowing out under boost.
The casting is purchased by TA, and it is machined in-house, the TA 1530 is their identification number to thwart the impostors!
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If its a dorman, very commonly on those the oil pump drive shaft wont even go through the hole as its too small.
I see the TA stamping on water pump surface as well.
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Ta covers are the same as what dick head sold you, it's just that Ta modifies the china shit covers to acceptable tolerances and resells them.
Spooled you definitely misrepresented if he advertised it as a TA cover as it isn't even close and he should be banned from selling on the board for at least 6 months if he makes it right with you and others in your position.
If he doesn't make it right he should be banned from the site.
That might be the only way to keep this kind of crap from escalating any further and maybe help protect the good and honest members here who value the board for all it has to offer not just a quick buck off the faceless victims they prey on.
The rules should be updated in the for sale section to help cut down on the cut throat mentalities that seem to prevail in that section.
Spooled you definitely misrepresented if he advertised it as a TA cover as it isn't even close and he should be banned from selling on the board for at least 6 months if he makes it right with you and others in your position.
If he doesn't make it right he should be banned from the site.
That might be the only way to keep this kind of crap from escalating any further and maybe help protect the good and honest members here who value the board for all it has to offer not just a quick buck off the faceless victims they prey on.
The rules should be updated in the for sale section to help cut down on the cut throat mentalities that seem to prevail in that section.
Yes I am aware Rob, thanks for your above comments I agree
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Rob, for your information and others as well, TA does NOT "modify" the China cover as they start with a raw casting.
You know the statement "you cannot fix stupid", in this case "you cannot re-machine crap"!
If the tolerance in the gear pocket is too large, how can you machine it smaller?
If the can sensor tunnel centerline is off, you cannot re-machine it into proper alignment?
I could go on, but I hope you get the picture now.
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Rob, for your information and others as well, TA does NOT "modify" the China cover as they start with a raw casting.
You know the statement "you cannot fix stupid", in this case "you cannot re-machine crap"!
If the tolerance in the gear pocket is too large, how can you machine it smaller?
If the can sensor tunnel centerline is off, you cannot re-machine it into proper alignment?
I could go on, but I hope you get the picture now.
Then why do they have the same casting number as a dorman/chinese cover?
If it was an in house/raw casting it should have a different # or no number at all to avoid the imposters so to speak then there would be no confusion at all.
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^^His words not mine.^^
I would like to know if they are shipped by Micheal J fox in the Delorean.
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TA offers aftermarket timing covers for other Buick V6 and V8 engines. Front mounted neoprene seal included. Please note that gaskets, timing tabs and distributor hold downs sold separately. These covers are machined by TA Performance to BETTER than OE standards and are of a higher quality.
^^That is what TA's add states.^^
I'm guessing they purchase the same covers we can and re-machine them to better tolerances than they are originally shipped from DOO-WONG-DONG.
I would buy a cover from Earl Brown before I would from TA.
Casting comes from the casting company. One shipment goes to a Chinese machinist factory for questionable machine work. The other shipment goes to TA for their machine work. As long as the casting is within tolerances for the machinist to work with it it can be machined into a quality cover (TA) or a questionable quality cover.
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Rob, even with your self-proclaimed "knowledge and experience" about everything in the turbo Buick universe, you are way off base on this subject, and many others that you have "explained"?
Unlike you, others here did grasp the concept that you cannot take a shit machined casting and make it right, but you are too arrogant to admit you were not correct, but like our politicians, your re-direct the facts to support your position.
Not only is the TA cover machined to much closer tolerances, but changes have been made to internal oil passages for improved flow as well. The most "perfect" stock GM cover cannot match the performance and output of a GM cover, and this is NOT an opinion but facts from much testing and practical use.
I worked with TA over 30 years ago out of his garage at home, and one of the products was modified timing covers for Buick 455 and 350 engines. With your vast knowledge you must know the Buick 350 V-8 and the V-6 share the same cover/oil pump?
Even with the magic Earl Brown, or anyone, does to modify a stock cover, it will not perform as well as a TA cover.
I am not dis-crediting Earl's work or the stock GM cover as I continue to use them, and they have proven to be adequate to 1000 HP or better when in excellent condition. When building a $15K engine for a customer, I do want to use the best parts available, certainly one a critical as the oil pump.
You can continue to make an ass of yourself here as I am sure you will refute the facts I have presented, but I am done with this thread that you have completely trashed.
Unlike you, others here did grasp the concept that you cannot take a shit machined casting and make it right, but you are too arrogant to admit you were not correct, but like our politicians, your re-direct the facts to support your position.
Not only is the TA cover machined to much closer tolerances, but changes have been made to internal oil passages for improved flow as well. The most "perfect" stock GM cover cannot match the performance and output of a GM cover, and this is NOT an opinion but facts from much testing and practical use.
I worked with TA over 30 years ago out of his garage at home, and one of the products was modified timing covers for Buick 455 and 350 engines. With your vast knowledge you must know the Buick 350 V-8 and the V-6 share the same cover/oil pump?
Even with the magic Earl Brown, or anyone, does to modify a stock cover, it will not perform as well as a TA cover.
I am not dis-crediting Earl's work or the stock GM cover as I continue to use them, and they have proven to be adequate to 1000 HP or better when in excellent condition. When building a $15K engine for a customer, I do want to use the best parts available, certainly one a critical as the oil pump.
You can continue to make an ass of yourself here as I am sure you will refute the facts I have presented, but I am done with this thread that you have completely trashed.
