how to mount alcohol nozzle to intake?

[spooledstang]

I'm building a kit using the macmaster carr nozzles. How do you guys attach these to the intake pipe? My only idea is to thread the nozzle in from the inside of the pipe, but the nozzle really sticks out into the intake flow, and its hard to fit my hand in the intake pipe. How do you guys set this up?

 

[Razor]

You need smaller hands

typically I use an elbow on mine with some sealing washers. So far so good. Tho the diameter of the pipe plays a role. See you only have so much thread on the nozzle to grab onto. So if you mounting it on the intake manifold, you may have issues. If your mounting it before TB on the pipe.. then its no biggie.

Depends on your stang and if you have a blower, SC, or Turbo.

As far as it sticking into the intake flow.. Use larger pipe , its a non issue. Plenty of other things to worry bout. Like leaks, proper fittings, connections, etc..

HTH

 

[fatride]

Razor, Got my new Hago you sent! 1 more stupid question for you. Should The Hago jet spray up, or get an elbow and face the jet towards the TB to shoot directly into the TB???
Thanks

 

[Razor]

Dont matter. Put it in the airstream so air rushing past it gets totally saturated. Its not a fuel injector, so you dont point it.. its purpose is to mist the air with alcohol.. this misted air is what does the majic. The further away from the TB the better. But not too far away. I would say typically what works is 3-12 inches from the TB.

Also keep the nozzle higher than the tank if possible. It helps prevent siphoning issues.

SpooledStang,
Put some pixs up when you get it done. I get a lot of querries for people wanting to see Mustang installations.

HTH

 

[fatride]

Thanks RAZOR

 

[spooledstang]

Last night I was bored so I went ahead and mounted the nozzle. I just drilled a hole in the intake pipe maybe 12-15inches from the TB. I did not tap the hole, I simply used a washer and tightened it down, theres no reason it should leak. I mounted it on the low pressure side of a bend in the pipe which may reduce the airflow obstruction.

Razor: I'll try to get some pics up, it will be a few weeks, my cars in pieces right now, I had an "accident" with the timing chain recently. I had some custom braided teflon/ss lines made per your recomendation, they turned out nice. I'm using the washer fluid tank, and I have the pump mounted behind the drivers side of the front bumper. Its pretty stealthy.

 

[Razor]

Cool.. I'm glad someone listens

What did you do for a fitting on the washer tank?

Thx..

 

[spooledstang]

Drill and tap the bottom of the tank (the plastics fairly thick), then use a fitting that has pipe thread on one side, and the appropriate fitting on the other side for the braided hose. What would you reccomend sealing the fitting with that would be methanol resistant? JB weld?

 

[Razor]

Ahaaa.. see I knew it

This is the achilles heel of doing this. problem is most products wont stick to brass. you cant use steel, your only option is to use plastic.

Now i've made gaskets out of teflon and used them on brass bulkhead fittings and so far so good. Also have used stat-o-seals and had good results.

But you wont find many epoxies, or glues that will stick to brass and plastic, be methanol compatible, and not fail.

The key is alcohol compatability.

This complicates everything.

Ive been selling the Syclone overflows and they look not too bad. Depends on space.

Tank

Its 12x6x6 holds 108 OZ

 

[PaulRV6]

Are you saying JB weld will not stick on plastic? I thought that stuff was good on anything.

paul

 

[Razor]

Problem is when you expose JB weld to alcohol.. it no happy.

And brass is one of those metals that chemicals dont stick to well. Plus when you have a brass fitting on a plastic tank.. I hope you see where this is going..

Plastic to plastic, there are chemicals that will bond them nicely, metal to poly.. problem. Especially with alcohol added to the mix. If where steel.. then no problem except steel will corrode with alky.

We get back to the compatability of alcohol with adhesive.. its a problem.

I did find one chemical, tho I havent had the time to subject it to the test.

Dont ask how I know this stuff.. spent a couple days calling adhesive MFG's for recommendations..

Julio