Loosing interest........

[Cheeseburger]

Going through a spell where i have lost interest in the car, need some motivation! Lol.

Car sits in the garage and is waitinggggg to get a wolfe bar installed which has been ongoing for a few months..........if i could weld (properly) i would have done it myself, but it's best to leave it to a chassis guy.

Shift work has probably been a cause as well, every week i am on a different shift (p.i.t.a.).

The thought of selling has crossed my mind, but i cannot bring myself to part it out just yet.......

Well maybe next year will be different, i hope the motivation and drive comes back!

Still lots of work ($$) to be done, wolfe bar install/boost controller/WB02/ and rear firewall for the trunk, never ends does it? Lol.

 

[Cheeseburger]

Another sneak peak.
Pics are from a few months ago, been some more progress since then!

 

[Otto J]

Just sell the wolfe bar and buy and HR bar and do it yourself,No welding in a couple of hours your done.Works freakin awesome

 

[Cheeseburger]

Just sell the wolfe bar and buy and HR bar and do it yourself,No welding in a couple of hours your done.Works freakin awesome

I have $480 in the wolfe bar, so i am at a loss if i sell.
I tried a few times over 2 years to get an HR bar and gave up, twice at Norwalk and twice at the Gs nats.
Never have been available, so i went with a Wolfe bar.

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Pssst-

I too was in your exact same shoes awhile back, i had my wolfe rear bar ready to install into my "race car"...

Well i never installed it because my suspension guy never could fit me in, so i let the bar sit and didnt race the car for 3 years...... just drove the car on the street.

Presently the car is my daily driver,turned back to stock, glad i never installed the Wolfe weld in bar because it now has the bolt in HRparts'N'-stuff rear bar and i friggin love it.

Take a hit on selling the wolfe bar, spend an extra 100.00 to get the HR bar and bolt it in on a thursday night and go racing on friday. You wont have to worry about cutting and rewelding to replace the aluminum bushings.

I do have the upper and lower wolfe bars on my car, need to do the spherical heim joints, but damn, its rough already!

Keep the car, hopefully its paid for!
BW

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Guess i shouldnt have been watching the chiefs game, seems like you got the same advice from someone faster than me :biggrin:

Keep the car, take the hit on the bar for someone with a "racecar"... should be a chevy guy there with a low 11 second racecar right? :biggrin:

BW

 

[Squid4life]

Cheese~
I don't have the magic words to motivate you, but your pics sure as hell motivated me! That engine is friggen sick!!!

Don't stop now! Just picture driving that bad b!tch down the road! Sick, sick, sick!!!

squid

 

[Cheeseburger]

Cheese~
I don't have the magic words to motivate you, but your pics sure as hell motivated me! That engine is friggen sick!!!

Don't stop now! Just picture driving that bad b!tch down the road! Sick, sick, sick!!!

squid

Hey thanks alot!

I built the motor in my basement and re and re'd the motor in the garage.
My goal was to make it as clean as possible by hiding all the wires etc.
Once i get my camera back from the gf i will post some updated pictures of the car, front to back and underneith........lots of fabracating, that's forsure!

 

[petesgn]

That is one bad a$$ car you got
realy like the clean engine bay. :biggrin:

What Back spacing and width are your draglites front and back

Thanks

 

[Cheeseburger]

Thanks Pete.

The backspacing is 3.5'' frt and back with 15x5 and 15x8 rims.

 

[Big Stu]

Draglites are neat rims, the anglia spindle mounts are especially trick. Don't lose hope, things will usually get better. I look at my shell of a car and wonder if i shouldn't have bought something done sometimes... but i do enjoy building it, makes it an exact opposite of a "pocketbook"car. The tube front is coming along well, have one strut mounted and I am working on welding the other top rail and funny car cage. Your ride looks bad-ass mike, keep up the good work.

 

[Cheeseburger]

Draglites are neat rims, the anglia spindle mounts are especially trick. Don't lose hope, things will usually get better. I look at my shell of a car and wonder if i shouldn't have bought something done sometimes... but i do enjoy building it, makes it an exact opposite of a "pocketbook"car. The tube front is coming along well, have one strut mounted and I am working on welding the other top rail and funny car cage. Your ride looks bad-ass mike, keep up the good work.

Thanks Stu, it's fun and motivational to build them that's forsure.........i might like building them more then racing them!

 

[turbot2496]

I look at my shell of a car and wonder if i shouldn't have bought something done sometimes... but i do enjoy building it, makes it an exact opposite of a "pocketbook"car.

Yeah but its a hobby and you have to spend your cash on something in this life. I see guys wasteing cash on all sorts of hobbies. A guy that freaking golfs all the time probably has as much tied up in green fees as some of us have in our cars.

On to the motivation......That car is gonna be the frickin meanest thing on the street. Geez thats sweet. Just imagine the look on the face of that ZO6 owner when you lay that on him......make sure when you whup him you mention he has a nice car and your grandmother just loves hers.... and how about this.... leave the street tires on but line up in the slicks lane at the track and have a blast wasteing all those trailered in slicked up 12 sec novas, chevelles etc....and don't forget to compliment and comment how you used to have one of those in high school before you started wanting to go fast or mention how easy it would be to transplant a 3.8T into their car ....... ahhh man now thats fun.

Good Luck with the car Cheeseburger.

 

[turbosam6]

I've been there (and ultimately sold the GN) and know how you feel. I don't know what your financial situation is, but when I got tired of working on the GN and frustrated with vendors, etc. I bought a turbo'd mustang. I realized that it takes about 1/3 the work to reach the same power level as my GN. Then I bought an LS1 with a bottle, and went faster on motor than I could ever get the Gn to go. Its not the GN's fault it wasn't tuned right, but there was no one to tune it, and I was constantly afraid of breaking the delicate motor. I have about 1/2 as much $$$ in my Z28 as I had in my GN and am going just as fast as the Gn will ever go in its current build. Now I'm looking at the turbo LS1 setups and direct port N2O iron block setups making SICK power for waaaay less than a stage motor would cost, not to mention theres about a zillion builders and a booming aftermarket. Getting into a different car really made me enjoy the hobby again, I was always stressing with the buick.

Just my opinion, I loved my GN and will always think they are awesome, but an 11 second street car isn't the terror it used to be, and sad to say its so much easier to be fast in another more mainstream car. I could have kept the GN, I didn't need the money, but it was just sitting and I didn't wanna be that guy who lets a GN sit for years.

 

[IowaGN]

Cheese,

I feel your pain brother! My GN has been sitting on my hoist in my garage for the past three years. I have my Bear brakes and 18" wheels in the basement waiting to go on, along with the 20 gallon DeQuick fuel cell, and other parts and pieces.Yanked the heater box and A/C stuff off. I sold my engine to some guy in Slipknot, started on a Stage project, finally gave up on that last month and sold that all off. Well, since then it has been sitting. Last month I finally said screw it and bought a stock engine to put back in. I'm gonna take it from FAST back to MAF for ease. Don't be like me! At least yours runs!

Travis

 

[turbot2496]

Guys looking for motivation and your telling him to quit because you had no success.........that is so weeeeeeeaaaakkkkk.....

The problem is staying on track, planning, budjeting and getting it done on a time table... Its sad to hear when someone has bitten off more than they can chew and ends up throwing in the towel and taking a huge loss because they didn't plan or lost sight of what they were doing. You need to start out with a set goal and the quickest, most reasonalby economical plan to get there on within an acceptable time frame. If you don't plan where your going then you have no ideal where you will end up. Setbacks???.... sure they are gonna happen, but thats with anything. That nitrous ls1 can blow up just as easy as anything else and there have been just as many frustrated ford and ls1 guys come to the buick camp to go street car fast as there have been guys leave. At the races I've been to there have been just as many or sometimes more broke fords and ls1's as there are buicks. Its all in what you want to build and getting as much info as possible and planning correctly and getting it done. I've seen guys get a car done in 4 months and I've seen other guys take 4 years and spend 4 times as much.

 

[WLDWST]

First off, let me say that your car looks great. It is immediately apparent however, that you suffer from the same disease that most of us board members do. GoFastitis. For some, it is a cycle. Build it up to be as fast as you can afford, and then tear it down and put it back to stock. At that point some sell and find that they miss the individuality, performance and attention these cars offer. Having a bellybutton Mustang or Camaro is not for me. We have seen this a thousand times on these boards. I have done the exact thing in the past with Corvettes,Camaro's, Impala's, Nova's etc. By the way, I blew a few of those up too. My 87T is the only car I have ever had that required a brain to own and maintain.
We are all nuts and can't help it. I can't offer you advice on whether to keep your GN or not. That is an individual decision. Like I said, some sell and never regret it, but these cars, even with the B.S. involved, are still awesome to own and drive.

 

[turbosam6]

Guys looking for motivation and your telling him to quit because you had no success.........that is so weeeeeeeaaaakkkkk.....

That nitrous ls1 can blow up just as easy as anything else and there have been just as many frustrated ford and ls1 guys come to the buick camp to go street car fast as there have been guys leave. At the races I've been to there have been just as many or sometimes more broke fords and ls1's as there are buicks.

Sure, anything can blow up. Difference is, no matter what part of the country you live in, theres an LS1 specific shop relitively close by who can rebuild it for you. Also the stock LS1 blocks will take ALOT more abuse than a 109, its just better technology, as it should be being 10 years newer. Look at an LS1 bottom end. The stock ford stuff can be weak, but I can find a replacement shortblock in about 2 hours for less than $200, or build an A4 block for less than a stage setup and make serious power. No one will contest the ford and chevy guys have it easier and cheaper. They just don't have the cool factor like the buicks IMO.

Anytime you go to the track there should be more broken LS1's and fords, hell I rarely even see a buick at the track. Say theres 2 TR's there, theres probably 50 fords and who knows how many Chevys. Thats just probability.

I've reached a point where I can't work on my own stuff as much as I'd like, so sometimes I have to pay someone. I couldn't even tell you where the closest TR related shop is. Speed Inc. is 2.5 hours from my house.

Take 100 10 second TR's and 100 10 second LS1's to the track, I'd bet my nitrous bottle there will be more buicks broken than LS1's. Check out the new issue of GMHigh Tech, theres an LS1 camaro making 850 RWHP on race gas and like 640 on pump. On a STOCK BLOCK AND CRANK. Dudes running like a $3200 shortblock. Its not gonna happen on a buick. The guys making serious power on stock blocks are gambling and they know it, and they are fine with it. Sure someone will have an example of a stock block Tr making a zillion horsepower, maybe even 2 examples. Head over to LS1tech.com and see alot of guys doing it.

I bought my GN to be different, I hate having the same car as someone at a cruise spot. But its just too expensive to be different now, and an 11 second street car used to be fast, now we have 9 second street cars. It was just time for a change........

 

[86brick]

Mike aka Cheeseburger has already run 10.57 @134mph 'nchange with a completely stock shortblock (that was together for 6 years of racing if my memory serves me correct) so I don't think there is any reason to try and talk him out of the Buicks.... He has had great success with his and I'm sure there will be plenty of light at the end of the tunnel for him Keep pushing on Mike!

BTW, Car looks badass

Steve

 

[ttypewe4jim]

Mike your car diffently has one of the most clean looking engine bays on the board :biggrin: I know we have aruggued(sp) on the board before but if you got out of buicks who would I fight with Keep it man in the end it will all play out force your self to goto one of the nationalevents and watch a bunch of buicks racing Il bet you all the 109 blocks I have (8 right now ) that you will get really fired up and be working on the buick night and day to get it done just take the hit and buy pauls set up and trow the wolf bar on ebay who knows mybe some sucker will pay more then its worth lol

just my worthless 2 cents


PS I love the old skool fender dump