More Stupid Democrat Criticisms
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The AMERICAN top line fighters came on line in the 1970s;
http://www.synergeez.com/aircraft-history/F-15-Eagle.php
http://hem.passagen.se/maddog/history.htm
If you want to talk abour military weapons platforms, it would help to be well informed.
The Mig 25 is still one of the fastest fighters in the air. And with upgraded avionics, still a very current model.
http://www.geocities.com/kid_bmx_13/mig25.html
http://www.vectorsite.net/avmig25.html
A fighter fast enough to catch an SR-71 Blackbird!
And a part you may have chosen to overlook, they found NEW MIG25s. Of course you can chose to say the Iraq Air Force bought MIGs and then just did not fly them.
http://www.synergeez.com/aircraft-history/F-15-Eagle.php
http://hem.passagen.se/maddog/history.htm
If you want to talk abour military weapons platforms, it would help to be well informed.
The Mig 25 is still one of the fastest fighters in the air. And with upgraded avionics, still a very current model.
http://www.geocities.com/kid_bmx_13/mig25.html
http://www.vectorsite.net/avmig25.html
A fighter fast enough to catch an SR-71 Blackbird!
And a part you may have chosen to overlook, they found NEW MIG25s. Of course you can chose to say the Iraq Air Force bought MIGs and then just did not fly them.
The foxbat was designed for one purpose...To intercept the B-70, which never went into production..Do your research. It can go fast in a very straight line and thats about it. Our latest aircraft would waste it in a dogfight. Why did iraq sink them in the sand.
1. no pilots
2. no parts
F-15 isnt the top flyer anymore, the f18 and the f22, which is having issues because they keep changing its role. What the iraqis had were stripped down versions without the advanced avionics...making them incapable of defending against our planes and our missles. The foxbat is basically an f-4 with a little more speed. Burns s-loads of fuel.. Can you say Dinosaur?
I see you are getting your info from a UFO site, that explains alot!
"the little green men are Democrats"
"Did you here the latest about the truck driver in VA that hit the lottery for 200 plus million"?
Thats chickenfeed to Kerry, he would have to have won at least 500 million to catch kerry's interest..
How much is the Bush clan worth???????
1. no pilots
2. no parts
F-15 isnt the top flyer anymore, the f18 and the f22, which is having issues because they keep changing its role. What the iraqis had were stripped down versions without the advanced avionics...making them incapable of defending against our planes and our missles. The foxbat is basically an f-4 with a little more speed. Burns s-loads of fuel.. Can you say Dinosaur?
I see you are getting your info from a UFO site, that explains alot!
"the little green men are Democrats"
"Did you here the latest about the truck driver in VA that hit the lottery for 200 plus million"?
Thats chickenfeed to Kerry, he would have to have won at least 500 million to catch kerry's interest..
How much is the Bush clan worth???????
Re: someone needs to shut down this thread!!!
Now that the name calling has gone away, There's no need to shut down a thread because people have differring views about issues.
If we all thought the same as everyone else we'd be the one having to drive mustangs.
Now that the name calling has gone away, There's no need to shut down a thread because people have differring views about issues.
If we all thought the same as everyone else we'd be the one having to drive mustangs.
Your right, but I bet if he wore a thong he'd have Bill Clinton's interest in a hurry.
You are lso right about those Foxbats. Saddam probably couldn't afford to fly them. The article also said SU 27's (new), but I wonder if they meant Mig 27's (old). I'd like to see a picture of one of those.
TurboJunky
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You want to THINK he lied because you hate him so much. He didn't lie. Saddam had WMD, you must know this since he used them many times. He didn't account for their destruction as mandated by the UN and cease fire agreement. Where did they go? Vanish into thin air? Please explain exactly where they went. Saddam HAD them, Bush said Saddam HAD them and didn't account for their destruction so how EXACTLY did he lie? Spin, spin, spin this one away....
Please EXPLAIN IN DETAIL exactly what those incentives would within the pervue of the President to give. Let's hear it...
He had some biological weapons back a few years, desert storm. But that wasnt what the Bush administration was pushing. As a matter of fact the "WMD" nametag was brought into existence by the Bush administration to vilify the Iraqis. Bush's administration used fear, oh they are pursuing nuclear weapons and will attack us, to push his agenda through Congress..It was all fabrications! How many middle eastern countries have biological/chemical weapons? You might be suprised. Iran and Syria to name a couple. Does that make them an immediate threat to the U.S.? No, and Iraq was not an immediate threat. Bush used 9/11 as an excuse to take down Hussein.
The U.N. mandates should have been handled by the U.N., Bush chose to step outside the U.N. to facilitate his own agenda.
His story is rapidly unraveling..Try reading the article I posted earlier..
http://www.signonsandiego.com/union...lz1e1golds.html
With all the third world countries with so-called WMDS, Why havent they attacked the U.S.? Only Korea has the delivery system to attack the U.S. Why hasnt Bush invaded N. Korea?
I dont hate, I dislike!
The U.N. mandates should have been handled by the U.N., Bush chose to step outside the U.N. to facilitate his own agenda.
His story is rapidly unraveling..Try reading the article I posted earlier..
http://www.signonsandiego.com/union...lz1e1golds.html
With all the third world countries with so-called WMDS, Why havent they attacked the U.S.? Only Korea has the delivery system to attack the U.S. Why hasnt Bush invaded N. Korea?
I dont hate, I dislike!
Before we went into Iraq, the general feeling of coutries like North Korea was "I can do anything I want, and the US won't lift a finger to stop me" "All I have to do is kill a few americans, they'll go soft and pull out".
Post Iraq, you'll find few countries willing to take that chance, now. Even the 9/11 Terrorists that we've captured have said they did not think the US would come after them like we did.
TurboJunky
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Democriatic spin, spin, spin.
You have such a slanted view of the world I'm surprised you don't walk with a limp.
Let me refresh your selective memory about Mr. Bill's impeachment. I'll be very clear about this so pay close attention.
Bill was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH during a deposition for a lawsuit against him for sexual harassment when he was governor of Arkansas. It is a CRIME to lie under oath during a legal proceeding. His actions were criminal in nature and led to his impeachment and him being dis-barred.
Does any of this sound familiar?
President Bush used the most up-to-date intelligence to make a case to reinitiate hostilities with Iraq. Because stockpiles of WMD haven't been found YET you call him a liar. Using your logic the Clinton administration lied, the UN lied, Germany lied, France lied, Saddam lied (since he thought he still had WMD), Madeline Albright lied...the whole world lied.
What a skewed sense of reality you live in.
Red Regal T
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This is exactly why this thread is called stupid democrat criticisms. Over and over again, as democrats do, with no proof, you say Bush lied about the WMD. You can't lie about something when the whole world and our intelligence agencies believed the weapons were there. GET A LEGITIMATE ISSUE.
We've lost the respect of foreign nations? Who cares.........it's just world politics. They're so jealous of the US power and wealth that they're green with envy. They bad mouth us every chance they get. I SAID there's something in the water out there. GET A GRIP!
After reading the last 3 pages,it becomes clear the war is the hot topic. Look back at how we started the war. Our troops didnt have a saftey net to catch terrorist fleeing to other countries,mistake 1. Bush wants to give them freedom and democracy the locals dont want either mistake 2. I believe the terrorists have fleed Iraq and set up shop else where. The locals are now turning on us which could have been predicted since they have fought since the time of Jesus,mistake 3. So my question is this the longer we stay in Iraq the more locals we piss off and the more enemies we make. Are we going to kill everyone in Iraq? Thats what its going to take to complete the plan that was visioned before going to war. So when does it end? Im not slamming anyone but the overall plan sucked from the get go. So Im asking the dems and republicans how do we get out when every last one of them is against us????? Its not even about terrorists anymore its the US giving orders to Iraq and there not buying it.
Red Regal T
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We Americans, like instant gratification. Bush never said this war was going to be over quickly. We've been being attacked by terrorists since 1979. Maybe we'll have it all taken care of in 20 years........... if we're lucky.
TurboJunky
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Realist?...doubt it. Alarmist...perhaps.
Keep Trying We4ster
I used the UFO site for the pictures and they were quite clear.
The F22 is not even close to being on line yet. That leaves our good old F16s and F15s as the front line platforms for the Air Force.
"Does that make them an immediate threat to the U.S.? No, and Iraq was not an immediate threat."
You are almost there, We4ster. We at last have a President who said he was not going to WAIT until they were and immediate threat or WAIT until they were used on America.
The words "ARE AN IMMINENT THREAT" are NOT a quote from President Bush.
As I keep saying, the Democrats keep saying it until you come to believe it.
I used the UFO site for the pictures and they were quite clear.
The F22 is not even close to being on line yet. That leaves our good old F16s and F15s as the front line platforms for the Air Force.
"Does that make them an immediate threat to the U.S.? No, and Iraq was not an immediate threat."
You are almost there, We4ster. We at last have a President who said he was not going to WAIT until they were and immediate threat or WAIT until they were used on America.
The words "ARE AN IMMINENT THREAT" are NOT a quote from President Bush.
As I keep saying, the Democrats keep saying it until you come to believe it.
Taffy, welcome to the discussion
Here are two things I can expect from President Bush;
I expect he respects the Navy pilot he flies with and also knows as a fighter pilot himself, that he is not qualified to perform a carrier landing at sea.
I expect he respects the Office of the President of the United States and the people he has selected to work in that office that he will never be riding (the face of some) bitch in the oval office.
Bitch riding is not in the Presidential job description.
And an additional note on the ancient MIG25, the first air loss of the Gulf war was a modern F18 shot down by the out of date, not a threat FoxBat.
Here are two things I can expect from President Bush;
I expect he respects the Navy pilot he flies with and also knows as a fighter pilot himself, that he is not qualified to perform a carrier landing at sea.
I expect he respects the Office of the President of the United States and the people he has selected to work in that office that he will never be riding (the face of some) bitch in the oval office.
Bitch riding is not in the Presidential job description.
And an additional note on the ancient MIG25, the first air loss of the Gulf war was a modern F18 shot down by the out of date, not a threat FoxBat.
Better a death toll in the hundreds over there than in the millions over here. Take the fight to them. I thought a Navy SEAL would be all for that concept. Anyone who doesn't think they could (can) attack us here has forgotten 9/11 already and that is disgraceful.
Settle down Brian. If you support the virtues of a free society you should be able to listen to someone's opinion without going postal.
Go back and check out how many democrats including Kerry supported sending troops to Iraq based on the intelligence at the time. When it became politically advantageous to critisize the war the democrats distanced themselves. lTo suggest that ANY republican takes the deaths of American Soldiers lightly is simply a false statement. It is utter lunacy to imply that Bush sent troops and billions of dollars to Iraq to gratify his ego.