another nice filter is from jegs. its there store brand. it is 12" long and has -10 or -8 fittings on both sides. the filter is anodized but comes with a 10 micron paper filter. you have to buy the replacement 40 micron ss filter element seperately. dont know why that cant sell it like that. it says it can support 1000+ hp with meth or eth. can be had all for under $70 if i recall. i have been using that setup for a year now.. btw....dont know why the site and the keyboard on my droid are not automatically capitalizing my sentences and spell check isnt working. hmmmm. also will not let me start a new paragraph. at least the commas are working lol
My E85 Fuel System Build - Thoughts?
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Firechaser
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That seems like it would be restrictive, THRLSKR's thought process is based on the fact the injector baskets are 40 microns....and the fact with all my arm-twisting, he won't forego the double pumpers for a Weldon :biggrin:
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It flows what it's rated at (1.5 gpm)
, the fact that it will catch "dirt" down to 5.9 microns tells me that it will filter the fuel better than most. I thought the injector basket was 10 microns, hence the problem finding a filter that will flow enough fuel at the higher pressures (+70psi it's rated to 150psi) and filter down to a minimum of 10 microns (rated @ 5.9 microns).:biggrin:
, the fact that it will catch "dirt" down to 5.9 microns tells me that it will filter the fuel better than most. I thought the injector basket was 10 microns, hence the problem finding a filter that will flow enough fuel at the higher pressures (+70psi it's rated to 150psi) and filter down to a minimum of 10 microns (rated @ 5.9 microns).:biggrin:
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Looks a lot like my set up I am going with the new racetronics stainless hanger with AN fittings it comes with -8 feed -6 return. I’m using a DW pump. I got the generic Teflon house from AN fitting direct. I am running -8 to a speed way filter to a summit racing y block then duel feeding my custom made fuel rails with -6 then I run -6 return to a Kerbans external fuel filter then -6 back to the tank. I also have a KB boosta pump on standby incase I needed it.
BEATAV8
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I'm planing to use Jegs pro-flo hose. It's methanol / gasoline compatible. It'll be fine with e85.
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make sure to try Gates submersible hose, for your pumper , supposed to be methanol and upto e100 compatible
marleyskater420
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Used this myself.
Went with a Aeromotive 40 micron filter pre-pump. I use a 60 micron SS filter-funnel from Kinsler when I put in my E85. I use a 25 micron SS element before the Y at the front of the engine. I've yet to see a 25 micron SS filter flow as much as the filter from Kinsler. It was also tested to 160gph, you could still smell the gas from when they tested it
Firechaser
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I got about 75% of the way done yesterday on my dual-feed setup using the Frozenboost "ptfe" hose....It's not nearly as friendly on bends as regular braided hose, it kinks very easily so extra fittings are required. If I wasn't running E85 i wouldnt use this stuff personally. The one good thing is it's OD is small so it fits in tight spaces, you can almost run 2 -8 lines in the space of 1 -10 traditional braided use to be (thats what i did). On a side note...my rails & injectors (champion - non andonized) looked fine inside with around 2 years of E85 flowing through them.
Bob - I hope you're ready for a second time around with the PTFE on my car in a few weeks! To Bob's credit the stuff is a PITA to bend or shape for tight spaces underhood. Be curious to hear about the Jegs pro flow.
Going to order the Kinsler filter tomorrow: Mega Monster Mesh 25 SS
http://www.kinsler.com/handbook163.html
marleyskater420
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Monster Mesh will be fine for the filter. That's what they recommended me, and my fuel pump flows 220gph@80psi
So unless you plan to flow more than that, I'd save the money
So unless you plan to flow more than that, I'd save the money
More parts arrived today from Racetronix and race parts:
Flow matched 120s and magna fuel regulator MP-9925-B.
The fuel filter from Kinsler is on order and should be here by end of week - not cheap but service was good and they provided additional info around the micron sizing with regards to their e85 experience.
I'm going to take pictures and document the fuel system install with Firechaser...just have to make sure his fridge is well stocked with Miller
Flow matched 120s and magna fuel regulator MP-9925-B.
The fuel filter from Kinsler is on order and should be here by end of week - not cheap but service was good and they provided additional info around the micron sizing with regards to their e85 experience.
I'm going to take pictures and document the fuel system install with Firechaser...just have to make sure his fridge is well stocked with Miller
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marleyskater420
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Its more about total flow of the filter than micron, so to speak. They recommend filtering the fuel before it enters your tank (ie-funnel filter) then a 40 micron pre-pump, and a 25 micron as close to the fuel rails as possible.
They recommended that with E85 you will still want to flush your system after usage to keep the lines from having any detrimental affects than ethanol can present.
A 40 micron pre pump will put some stress on the pump. But your going to run a double pumper right. Wonder what the micron size is on the walbro pump filter. Whats the total flow on the filter you got from thwm? The filter I have flows 300gph. As for flushing the system, the ptfe is pretty stought line I dont see anyone having issues unless your trying to put 500,000+ Miles on the car
marleyskater420
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No, it won't, provided the filter will flow enough. It is all about total flow of the filter, not the micron size, necessarily. Again, I don't work there, but you can call Justin@Kinsler and he could explain it to you better than I ever will.
They work with Sprint/Methanol cars all the time, so I trust their judgement when it comes to these things. Plus they can flow pumps/injectors/etc. so I got an actual flow sheet of my pump (It was from Weldon, but Kinsler can still flow it if you so desire... mine flows 22gph more than what its rated, too
talk about customer service!!!!)The filter I have is their Monster Mesh, I believe. I forget the gph, but the total surface area is far superior then what I have seen elsewhere. If you look on their site, or call them, they could let you know. All I know is they wanted me to have as minimal restriction as possible, so the filter I got would cause little-to-no (of course there will always be *some* restriction) hindrance of flow for the fuel. its about 5x7 externally, I believe.
