NHRA Rule Update (Check it out).....
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wlaukaitis
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turbov6joe
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That is HUGE! Up untill now I was so tired of my local track breaking my balls about running into the 11's! This year they told everyone if you run 11's more than twice in 1 night your banned for the rest of the season. Last year they put me on the trailer many times which really sucked bad!! I was hoping upon hope the NHRA would do something like this....thank God!
And I get my car back from having a bar installed today after being kicked off the track my last time there. 
If I read the rules correctly, tires such as ET Streets and QTPs would not be allowed. Since our cars came with turbos, would any size turbo be OK? Can the techs even tell the difference between a stock and a big shaft turbo?
If I read the rules correctly, tires such as ET Streets and QTPs would not be allowed. Since our cars came with turbos, would any size turbo be OK? Can the techs even tell the difference between a stock and a big shaft turbo?
Originally posted by XLR8
And I get my car back from having a bar installed today after being kicked off the track my last time there.
If I read the rules correctly, tires such as ET Streets and QTPs would not be allowed. Since our cars came with turbos, would any size turbo be OK? Can the techs even tell the difference between a stock and a big shaft turbo?
I seriously doubt the techs will be able to tell the difference between a stock and a big shaft turbo (especially if you have a turbo shield)
As far as the tires go, it said DOT and last time I checked ET Streets are DOT approved....
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It wouldn't matter if they could tell or not. Garrett turbochargers are/were OEM; GM didn't make them. Use a Garrett housing and you're ok. If it says Turbonetics, that might cause some skepticism. If a car is built with a turbo, then it's not a "power adder", it's stock configuration.
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What's changed for us?
The new rules pertain to, for example, a guy who wants to take his PURE STOCK Cobra down the track, not to a modified TR.
Any track that allows a modified TR to run under PURE STOCK rules is acting outside of the NHRA rules.
Do you really think the NHRA would stick it's neck out on this matter? What part of PURE STOCK don't you understand? Oh, you may get away with it, but when all is said and done, it's still your azz, isn't it?
NOTHING HAS CHANGED (except now may be the time to buy that Cobra)...
The new rules pertain to, for example, a guy who wants to take his PURE STOCK Cobra down the track, not to a modified TR.
Any track that allows a modified TR to run under PURE STOCK rules is acting outside of the NHRA rules.
Do you really think the NHRA would stick it's neck out on this matter? What part of PURE STOCK don't you understand? Oh, you may get away with it, but when all is said and done, it's still your azz, isn't it?
NOTHING HAS CHANGED (except now may be the time to buy that Cobra)...
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Brick,
Sounds like you're in denial?
Whether we agree with the rules makes for lively conversation, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. In fact, one could make the argument that going to a track and not playing by the rules is no better than street racing.
Sounds like you're in denial?
Whether we agree with the rules makes for lively conversation, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. In fact, one could make the argument that going to a track and not playing by the rules is no better than street racing.
Since you can get a fairly stock TR into the high 11's, I'd say it does apply. I think our cars will be one of the few cars in between the older designs and newer designs that can reach 11's on a fairly stock setup.
Most older muscle cars couldn't reach 11's without engine work. Newer cars, especially high end sports cars, can reach these times much easier and have much safer chassis designed for the higher speeds. Mustangs and camaros from the 80's either needed engine work or a power adder such as a supercharger or nitrous.
Seems like TR cars could benefit from this greatly, although it would only apply to minimally modifed cars that will run mid to high 11's. Its great for newer cars such as Cobras, Vettes, Vipers, and supercars that can also get into those times with a pretty stock setup.
Most older muscle cars couldn't reach 11's without engine work. Newer cars, especially high end sports cars, can reach these times much easier and have much safer chassis designed for the higher speeds. Mustangs and camaros from the 80's either needed engine work or a power adder such as a supercharger or nitrous.
Seems like TR cars could benefit from this greatly, although it would only apply to minimally modifed cars that will run mid to high 11's. Its great for newer cars such as Cobras, Vettes, Vipers, and supercars that can also get into those times with a pretty stock setup.
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I'm with brick on this one. Rules in racing classes of all different types of racing are there as guidlines. Its up to the tech inspectors to make sure those rules are followed and up to the racers to push the envelope. If you look at the new guidlines, it says OEM "type" in several of the categories listed. We are not talking about showroom stock! Nowhere in those rules does it say that the car has to be as it was when it came from the factory.
This is the first time the NHRA has allowed 11.50's without a rollbar.
That 1/2 second has taken 10+ years to get.
To race in their stupid "class" your car has to be "stock". No tech at the Motor plex could tell if my car wasn't 100% stock, so it appears to me they won't be threatening to throw me out for 11.99's anymore.
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Now I know what's wrong with this board. Nobody can read. PURE STOCK = as constructed by the OEM. NOTHING HAS CHANGED for our cars. Oh, and pure stock TRs go 14s or very high 13s, not 11s. Not on this planet, anyway...
If you doubt my interpretation, phone NHRA, give them your what ifs, and let us know what they said...
If you doubt my interpretation, phone NHRA, give them your what ifs, and let us know what they said...
Originally posted by strikeeagle
Now I know what's wrong with this board. Nobody can read. PURE STOCK = as constructed by the OEM. NOTHING HAS CHANGED for our cars. Oh, and pure stock TRs go 14s or very high 13s, not 11s. Not on this planet, anyway...
If you doubt my interpretation, phone NHRA, give them your what ifs, and let us know what they said...
Umm last time I checked a bone stock '03 Cobra or PURE STOCK '03 Cobra is not going to run 11's..... It needs some bolt-ons like a chip, pulley, exhaust so WTF is your point!!! Why would they make this if the Cobras, ZO6 Vettes, etc. need bolt-ons to run 11's??? Several TRs/TTAs that I know of down here run 11's with bolt-ons and small shaft stock appearing turbos, stock location ICs, so there aint no way in hell the tech guys will be able to tell the difference from a stock TR to a slightly modified one that has bolt-ons....... It's the tech inspectors job to interpret/enforce the rules in the end so I really don't give a damn what the NHRA tells you or me!
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