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turbojitsu85 said:
What? Blisters are one of the reasons we have duct tape!
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What? Blisters are one of the reasons we have duct tape!
Second Skin works better.
turbojitsu85 - Are the insoles made of cork or the actual sole of the shoe? I didn't see that when I looked at the shoe review. Where in your arch is the blister? It might be the insole pinching your arch. Running puts about 10 times the stress on your joints and feet, so it could be as simple as the insoles.
Reaper - broken stuff beats stress fractures any day
. Bet you have trouble in airports :tongue: ! Are your legs like my shattered wrist, hurt when low fronts come through?
John
turbojitsu85 - Are the insoles made of cork or the actual sole of the shoe? I didn't see that when I looked at the shoe review. Where in your arch is the blister? It might be the insole pinching your arch. Running puts about 10 times the stress on your joints and feet, so it could be as simple as the insoles.
Reaper - broken stuff beats stress fractures any day
. Bet you have trouble in airports :tongue: ! Are your legs like my shattered wrist, hurt when low fronts come through?John
make sure you try the shoes on with the type of socks you are gunna wear when running...
most running shoes are toast after about 300 to 500 miles. nikes being on the low end of that scale NB is on the high end. also if you are a heavier set runner you will trash them faster..
I would not run in trail shoes if i was not on the trail more then 1 work out a week. they are heavy and can make your issues with form worse.
most running shoes are toast after about 300 to 500 miles. nikes being on the low end of that scale NB is on the high end. also if you are a heavier set runner you will trash them faster..
I would not run in trail shoes if i was not on the trail more then 1 work out a week. they are heavy and can make your issues with form worse.
6APPEAL said:Reaper - broken stuff beats stress fractures any day
John
no, I have never had an issue with the rod in my leg and airports but I onces had a Live .45 round in my carry on once. that was funny! I have a letter from the NSA or who ever is over the airports!
yes it hurts all the time when it gets cold.
I agree that most shoes are toast by 500 miles. The heavier your are, the quicker they die. I remember reading an article where a foot doctor suggested buying the low end shoes ($50 or under) and replacing them every month or two instead of buying an expensive pair of shoes ($70 +) and trying to get a lot of life out of them.
John
John
Wow, I could've used this info 6 months ago. I was training for the Sac. marathon in December. I bought some $120 Nikes and went for it. Cardio wise I was ready but I come from a sprinting/weight lifting background. It was hard for me to run heel first much less know how to train. I ended up getting hurt a month before the marathon but I was knockng out 10-15 miles every other day easily. I'm 6'1" and 215lbs. Would I be less injury prone if I cut down to 185-190? It should go pretty fast, I had to lift weights like crazy and eat everything in sight just to maintain the muscle I have when I was training.
cool 84 - less weight would be better. Much less likely to get injuried with the mileage you're putting in. Big guys don't fair well in long races. Not sure about your training schedule, but you might want to move some of your mileage around. Only do 1 long run (12+) once a week and as you get closer to the 17-18 mark move to every other week. You want to build up to a 22-24 miler no closer than 3 weeks before your marathon. I made some of the same mistakes when training for my 1st marathon. I never did a training run longer than 16 miles. Had a big ole DNF, sat down at the 17 mile rest area and couldn't get back up.
John
John
I got to say 6 Has this Long distance **** down!
YOu guys are all nuts. I am a sprinter by trade and can move up to the 800 but any thing further then that I will DRIVE!!!!!!!!!
If you guys want any help with Form work or speed work PM me I have a few Training videos I can make copies of if you guys are interested.
also I can do my best to describe drills and other things to help with strenthing the running form.
one thing I will say about 6appeals adivce is runnning is not all that individulistic. If you look at lots of good runners they are all carbon copies. there are Def. more effecient ways of tranfering power to the ground. Running is a lot like Drag racing. Speed is a product of POWER, power is a product of Form (traction)
Dathan
YOu guys are all nuts. I am a sprinter by trade and can move up to the 800 but any thing further then that I will DRIVE!!!!!!!!!
If you guys want any help with Form work or speed work PM me I have a few Training videos I can make copies of if you guys are interested.
also I can do my best to describe drills and other things to help with strenthing the running form.
one thing I will say about 6appeals adivce is runnning is not all that individulistic. If you look at lots of good runners they are all carbon copies. there are Def. more effecient ways of tranfering power to the ground. Running is a lot like Drag racing. Speed is a product of POWER, power is a product of Form (traction)
Dathan
Thanks Reaper. All the knowledge I have is a by product of 26+ years of distance running, plus lots of reading.
You would be a better source for strength training, plyometrics, etc. Your knowledge in those areas is by far, broader and more in depth than mine. You also have access to materials I don't since you are in coaching. I agree that strength is needed for speed, no matter the distance you are covering. Weight training never hurts, you just want to limit the muscle groups you work. No need to carry the extra bulk if being a fast distance runner is what you want.
I agree that when you watch the NYC Marathon on tv all the front runners do look like carbon copies of each other as far as form is concerned. But there are usally 2 or 3 that stand out, they just run different. Paula Ratcliff come to mind, she always looks like hell, but she is the women's world record holder.
John
You would be a better source for strength training, plyometrics, etc. Your knowledge in those areas is by far, broader and more in depth than mine. You also have access to materials I don't since you are in coaching. I agree that strength is needed for speed, no matter the distance you are covering. Weight training never hurts, you just want to limit the muscle groups you work. No need to carry the extra bulk if being a fast distance runner is what you want.
I agree that when you watch the NYC Marathon on tv all the front runners do look like carbon copies of each other as far as form is concerned. But there are usally 2 or 3 that stand out, they just run different. Paula Ratcliff come to mind, she always looks like hell, but she is the women's world record holder.
John
I love this Thread. For once there has been lots of Info given and lots of very helpful info traded. Lots of Respect in here!
As for variations yes, Look at Micheal Johnson, however if you look very closely to the way he runs its very effiecent. his style is only a slight variation of traditional running form.
at any rate, this is a kick ass thread! :biggrin:
As for variations yes, Look at Micheal Johnson, however if you look very closely to the way he runs its very effiecent. his style is only a slight variation of traditional running form.
at any rate, this is a kick ass thread! :biggrin:
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6APPEAL said:
They are all freaks of nature.
Have you ever been close up to any of those people? I once had one of the world class Kenyans jog by (like within two feet) on his way to the starting line and I never realized just how small they are
There is nothing... absolutely NOTHING... on their frames except what is necessary to run. I was like "holy sh!t, I can't believe how small he is!"
Then they go out and seemingly effortlessly (I know it's not) run a marathon at a pace at which only a pretty good athlete can run 400m
Those guys are sooo amazing.
I agree that the African distance runners are amazing. Just look at this years NYC marathon, a 4:22 mile at mile 17 to split the pack, my god that's only 10 seconds slower than my best mile EVER ! The US distance runners are just now starting to catch up by adapting their training theories. Hell I'm amazed at every world class athlete I've ever meet. Back in my competitive days, I used to see them every day at the Olympic Training Center campus in Colorado Springs. Track and field, cycling, skating (ice and wheels, speed and figure), etc. It wasn't anything to be sitting next a world or Olympic champion in the cafeteria. In sports where large size is not an advantage, most elite level athletes are quite small. Can't forget about the world class women. I used to consider myself lucky if I could stay near their pack in any race above 8k. After 15k, they blew me out the back.
Reaper, what's the guy's name that is said to be the next Micheal Johnson? Runs for the same college and coach in Texas, won the Olympic 400m? Completely unbelievable how little energy is lost to un-needed movement by those guys. Amazing to watch.
John
! The US distance runners are just now starting to catch up by adapting their training theories. Hell I'm amazed at every world class athlete I've ever meet. Back in my competitive days, I used to see them every day at the Olympic Training Center campus in Colorado Springs. Track and field, cycling, skating (ice and wheels, speed and figure), etc. It wasn't anything to be sitting next a world or Olympic champion in the cafeteria. In sports where large size is not an advantage, most elite level athletes are quite small. Can't forget about the world class women. I used to consider myself lucky if I could stay near their pack in any race above 8k. After 15k, they blew me out the back.Reaper, what's the guy's name that is said to be the next Micheal Johnson? Runs for the same college and coach in Texas, won the Olympic 400m? Completely unbelievable how little energy is lost to un-needed movement by those guys. Amazing to watch.
John
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Just an update on my foot and my shoes. I found out what brand of soles I put in them they are Down Unders. I went with this brand because the other soles that the salesman put in the shoe hurt my foot. As far as the blister goes it is gone and what is left is tender skin. I ran for about 45 minutes today and besides a little cramping in my right foot while walking for a warm up my feet are fine. It must have been the socks that caused the blister because today I wore the nylon socks that New Balance sent me for free and my feet are fine.
I also like this thread and the respect it has generated. I am getting sick of to many threads were people like me who don't know very much about a subject ask for advice and get flamed and bashed. I would like to thank all of you for your helpful advice.
turbojitsu85 - sounds like you might have found the source of your problem. Hope it continues to work out for you. You might want to use an frozen water to massage your arch. Just fill an old water bottle about 3/4 full of water and freeze it. You can leave your socks on or take them off and roll the bottle under your arches for a few minutes after your runs. Always worked for me.
Maybe Reaper can give you some excercises to strengthen your arches. The only thing I can think of is toe raises and they may not be the correct exercise. You might also be suffering a little Plantar Fasciitis. Reaper, please chime in, your expertise is needed here!
John
Maybe Reaper can give you some excercises to strengthen your arches. The only thing I can think of is toe raises and they may not be the correct exercise. You might also be suffering a little Plantar Fasciitis. Reaper, please chime in, your expertise is needed here!
John
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6APPEAL said:
Must be nice.
I have a friend who is/was about as fast as you. He ran the Crescent City Classic one year and was completely pissed because a woman had finally beat him in a race. That was the year they used the CCC as the women's North American championship (or something like that).
So I say "Well, duh!, that was the North American championship race" and he glares at me like I'm a complete retard and says "So?!"
I love competitive people :biggrin:
Blob - Nowhere near that fast now. Age and weight caught up with me after shattering my wrist 6 years ago. Do alot of mountain bike racing now. It's much easier on my knees. And yes, the pro/elite class women blow me out the back. Heck alot of the top sport class women kick my end, but what a view. Women cyclist have some of the best looking back sides 
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Reaper - had to google it, but it's Jeremy Wariner. Trains under Johnson's former coach Clyde Hart. To me the guy is almost a mirror image of Johnson. I remember seeing a split screen comparison of Johnson and Wariner during the Olympics. Was Hall the guy that got the silver in the US 400m sweep? I know Williamson, Wariner's training partner won the bronze.
Sweet thread !
John
!Reaper - had to google it, but it's Jeremy Wariner. Trains under Johnson's former coach Clyde Hart. To me the guy is almost a mirror image of Johnson. I remember seeing a split screen comparison of Johnson and Wariner during the Olympics. Was Hall the guy that got the silver in the US 400m sweep? I know Williamson, Wariner's training partner won the bronze.
Sweet thread
!John
