Stick With My TE-44 Or Go Up To A 61BB???

[ReaL99]

I have a TE-44 Turbo but not worried about racing it at the track.If I went with a 61 or 6152 BB Turbo and ran 16-18lbs of Boost on the street would I feel the difference on the street Some guys have told me that if your not going to turn the boost up past 20lbs then stick with the TE-44 and add Alky.I wondered if it was worth it to go up to a 61 if Im not going to use race gas

 

[conn84gn]

Not going to race then
ADD the ALKY first! If you want more turn the boost up
A TE44 can and have run mid 11's so...
If there is nothing wrong with it leave alone
My last Motor had a TE44 Nice turbo
Only reason I upgraded was I found a sweet deal on a new motor and turbo

 

[ReaL99]

If I do keep the TE-44 I would like to get the PTE 63 Housing back that it originally came with.I have a Garett housing.Made a mistake swapping out the Precision 63.My 44 felt alot stronger with the Precision housing.Running mid 11's on Race gas I assume with my TE-44.

 

[bison]

If I do keep the TE-44 I would like to get the PTE 63 Housing back that it originally came with.I have a Garett housing.Made a mistake swapping out the Precision 63.My 44 felt alot stronger with the Precision housing.Running mid 11's on Race gas I assume with my TE-44.

The 44 i had on my car last year felt like a rocket ship. Instant spoolup with the Garrett housing. It was the quickest spooling combo ive ever seen without nitrous. It was an easy 11.0 car with the 44 on it.

 

[six slinger]

I have a TE-44 Turbo but not worried about racing it at the track.If I went with a 61 or 6152 BB Turbo and ran 16-18lbs of Boost on the street would I feel the difference on the street Some guys have told me that if your not going to turn the boost up past 20lbs then stick with the TE-44 and add Alky.I wondered if it was worth it to go up to a 61 if Im not going to use race gas

i thoght from previous posts that you were asking advice on,that you were going with a 66 or 67 turbo?

 

[buttonfly]

i thoght from previous posts that you were asking advice on,that you were going with a 66 or 67 turbo?

So did I I would stick with the TE44 and be done. I agree add alky and boost!

 

[wickedtt]

So did I I would stick with the TE44 and be done. I agree add alky and boost!

+1 for keeping the TE44 and adding alky!

 

["Turbo-T"]

Some guys have told me that if your not going to turn the boost up past 20lbs then stick with the TE-44 and add Alky.

Hhhmm I've been told if you're not running at least 18 PSI with a TE-44 then you're pissing in the wind and a stocker is more efficient.

Not sure if it's true or not. Sorry I can't be of any other help. :redface:

 

[Sweet6]

+1 for keeping the TE44 and adding alky!

+2 You need to run probably 25lbs+ to see a difference.

 

[TurboDave]

Hhhmm I've been told if you're not running at least 18 PSI with a TE-44 then you're pissing in the wind and a stocker is more efficient.

Not sure if it's true or not. Sorry I can't be of any other help. :redface:

Ummm. NO. You've been misinformed.

 

[bison]

I ran 27psi. It was very strong.

 

[ReaL99]

Hhhmm I've been told if you're not running at least 18 PSI with a TE-44 then you're pissing in the wind and a stocker is more efficient.

Not sure if it's true or not. Sorry I can't be of any other help. :redface:

TE-44 with 18 PSI on pump 93 gas and the stock Turbo is more efficient

 

[ReaL99]

+2 You need to run probably 25lbs+ to see a difference.

Are you meaning if I upgraded to a 61 Turbo in place of my TE-44

 

["Turbo-T"]

TE-44 with 18 PSI on pump 93 gas and the stock Turbo is more efficient

Wasn't my original words, it was someone elses, I even made a post about it. They basically were trying to say under 18 PSI a stock turbo is more efficient than a TE-44, above 18 PSI the TE-44 starts to shine.

Here's where that came from:

YouTube - Re: Buick Turbo Buick

Here's his quote to me:

A stock turbo is more efficient at 14 psi than a TE44 and will make more power. On a stock, unopened motor, A TE44 won't make more power than a stocker until 18 psi or so.

Alright, now you can tell him he's full of chit if you still feel that way.

 

[ReaL99]

At 18 PSI a stock turbo will not be faster then a TE-44 Turbo with the same Boost.I never run only 14lbs of boost.I run 18lbs of boost on the street and never had a problem.The stock Turbo has virtually no power over 60 mph unless you throw in a special chip,race gas and alky.

 

[Mr.Spool]

real99,are you still tossing around the 61 vs the 44?if your not prepared to raise the boost to flow more air you going to spend thousands and when you drive it your going to say wow i spent $$ on what?do a converter,alky,raise the boost,then you will smile,but at 18psi your not going to be happy.

 

[buttonfly]

real99,are you still tossing around the 61 vs the 44?if your not prepared to raise the boost to flow more air you going to spend thousands and when you drive it your going to say wow i spent $$ on what?do a converter,alky,raise the boost,then you will smile,but at 18psi your not going to be happy.

Please we have all gone through swapping turbo's, but like Mr.Spool said raise the boost with what you have. Get your alky, and raise the boost. Add the alky and get yourself in position with your combo so that when you make a change the key parts are already there. If you don't want to do a converter right away keep the 44 and run at least 23psi. Then judge where you are at. If you want to go with a larger 61 and add a converter. Try 23 psi then and see where you like that.

 

[GNVYUS 1]

I know you were looking into this earlier this summer but after looking at your combo 2 things stick out.

1) You have ported heads and an FMIC with a stock D5 converter??
If you want to take advantage of those 275/60 DOT's put in a real converter and watch how the car responds.

2) No alky?? Max out your current setup and then see if you want more power.
Since you're primarily a street car, alky is your ticket.

After I got my TA49 I realized the car was still increasing in power by swapping out the other stock parts. My cars to the point now to where I don't think I'll have to go to a bigger turbo because it'll run an 11.50 no prob and I don't want a 6 point cage in it. I'm confident it'll do it on my street tune with a locked converter.

 

[Sleeper-6]

OK, to keep with this post, I would say alky before the 61.

Now why does everybody forget that there are two parts to a turbo? When you change to a larger turbo you get an upgraded/larger compressor assembly AND a larger/upgraded turbine assembly. Ignoring what is going on on the compressor side, if we look at the larger turbine side alone you can see that it is less restrictive to the exhaust flow and will allow the engine to produce more power without having to fight the back pressure of the smaller turbine assembly.
On the compressor side, I highly doubt that it will be less efficent at lower boost. You may not gain anything from it at that point, but it can't hurt.

 

[ReaL99]

I know you were looking into this earlier this summer but after looking at your combo 2 things stick out.

1) You have ported heads and an FMIC with a stock D5 converter??
If you want to take advantage of those 275/60 DOT's put in a real converter and watch how the car responds.

2) No alky?? Max out your current setup and then see if you want more power.
Since you're primarily a street car, alky is your ticket.

After I got my TA49 I realized the car was still increasing in power by swapping out the other stock parts. My cars to the point now to where I don't think I'll have to go to a bigger turbo because it'll run an 11.50 no prob and I don't want a 6 point cage in it. I'm confident it'll do it on my street tune with a locked converter.

I was thinking about a 3200 single disc LU converter.I noticed you went with a Vig 3400 5 Disc converter?? I thought that was a little to much converter for a TA-49 but I don't know much about stall converter's.As for now I will keep the TE-44 but I might change to a .63 Precision exhaust Housing.Also Alky will be added.