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If your not going over 25psi and will never have a bar or cage you dont need to spend any $ on any stroker BS or any other engines. 25 psi will net mid 10's on a decent tune. If you ever think of going faster than 10.0 without a cage watch the Odell crash vid a couple times. Street car or not the pavement will do the same to your head at the strip or on the street.


Good post above.
See ya, Kip
 
Looks like I really struck a nerve. I will not resort to name calling with you as I am sure you are better at it than me.
Lets talk facts, how many TR have you owned with roll bars/cages in them? Since you made a statement about I wouldn't know the difference lets see who has had more. Right this minute I only own three but have owned as many as five TR at one time with either roll bars or cages at the same time.
Above you mention that you have bought cars with bars in them, I guess you only paid half what they were worth if they did not have bars in them like you mention the value of your current car would be with a bar in it???

Take care, Kip

Ok, your the roll bar expert. Yehhhh!:rolleyes: Unless you have a worthy motor for sale go play with ur roll bar and start ur own thread.
 
Ok, your the roll bar expert. Yehhhh!:rolleyes: Unless you have a worthy motor for sale go play with ur roll bar and start ur own thread.

If I was trying to sell you an engine I would have replied to your wanted ad not this one. I will stay off this thread now since you did not answer my questions and you asked me to. Looks like we are done playing.

See ya, Kip
 
Keep the stock Shortblock in the car. Trust me, it won't be any fun trying to tune for low 10's when you keep getting kicked out the track.
You can't have your cake and it it too.
 
If you are not going to race it at the track. I would keep what you have and take the chance on it. If you plan on going to track and do a lot of mid 10 sec passes, then I would get another motor for piece of mind. But I think the stock shortblock would last quite a while if it was a weekend cruiser with some occassional blasts.

I would say between $2-$3K if you sold what you have now. $2K is probably low. Or post it up for sale first to see what kind of offers you get on it. Then decide what to do. You probably already have an idea of what a new motor costs.
 
So you think that Odell planned that rollover?? Do you think any of the hundreds/thousands of rollovers others have experienced were planned??
Sorry!! But - Idiot comes to mind!! Mike:rolleyes:

Exactly, it sounds like a typical Grand National owner. I want a 10 second Regal, but none of the safety equipment that will support the horsepower or speed. Then you call people idiots for pointing out the obvious fact that accidents happen with high horsepower. I'm sure Sully's father or Odell woke up that morning and said "I'm bored, I think that I am going to crash my car into the walls/hay bails". Accidents happen.

You are worried about depreciating the value of the car with a bar or cage. But yet you are going to sell the original #'s matching 16K motor. :confused: The floor can be repaired by any restoration shop. Once you loose track of the original motor and transmission, their gone. Good luck finding them again.
 
you have a beautiful car there.. as I said before .. keep it simple :confused: why do you want to reinvent the wheel ??? 10s with drag radials are a walk in the park !! NOT pushing the car hard either.! I see your talkin big turbo, intercooler, Fast :rolleyes: ..... Chip it and DRIVE the thing !! hell by the time your done hallucinating the summer will be gone! ...ok enuff "preaching" for the day :eek:
 
Summer? What summer? Seems like it's over already and has rained for the last two months...:rolleyes: Yea, im not sure what im gonna do. Entertaining offers.
 
IMO, a 10 second street car is a race car. You point and shoot and you get there really darn quick! Not many can hang with a high 10 or low 11 second street car. Too many variables like traction, fuel, braking, police, etc......
 
If your not going over 25psi and will never have a bar or cage you dont need to spend any $ on any stroker BS or any other engines. 25 psi will net mid 10's on a decent tune. If you ever think of going faster than 10.0 without a cage watch the Odell crash vid a couple times. Street car or not the pavement will do the same to your head at the strip or on the street.

+1000. I couldn't have said it better myself. Personally low 10's is far over the line into race car territory for some of the reasons stated above. Some have said it (in a rather unsavory way) that 10's without safety equipment is crazy. I couldn't agree more. You will never be able to use that kind of power on the street LEGALLY, anyway. So if you're going to take it to the track to stretch it's legs than I couldn't stress 'safety first' more. If you roll at 10.xx @ 130-132mph without the proper safety equipment you are likely to be killed or seriously injured. You KNOW that Brett, so I don't understand where you are taking this project. As for the stroker, it wouldn't be necessary for the level you're trying to attain, but would be nice since the motor would stay together for longer and would certainly be peace of mind. Just what is the point of a low ten's car on the street other than braggin rights? What are you trying to do here?
 
SS_Sean;2217261 but would be nice since the motor would stay together for longer and would certainly be peace of mind.[/quote said:
That's pretty much it. Insurance and peace of mind is basically what im looking for and if im gonna spend the extra money then there is no point in doing it half-azz.
 
:confused: Was this a thread about engines or rollbars? Since this is about the engine my vote is for a stroker. The added torque will make driving the car more enjoyable on the street. The turbo will spool faster and won't need to turn up the boost to destructible levels to enjoy the car.
 
Another vote for the stroker. You will exceed usable street HP levels with a well built stroker without having to even approach that ragged edge on your build. This is, of course, assuming you have the means ($$$).

When has anyone ever regretted overbuilding a short block?
 

HAHAHAAAA. If it works for Bison, it can work for ANYBODY :D

Brett if you look at your sig, almost everything thing there is (was) freakin rediculous. I would say go with a stroker and keep the tradition alive. Or you could always put the squeeze on a 16K block and see how much she'll hold :eek: :cool:
 
off topic again

HAHAHAAAA. If it works for Bison, it can work for ANYBODY :D

Brett if you look at your sig, almost everything thing there is (was) freakin rediculous. I would say go with a stroker and keep the tradition alive. Or you could always put the squeeze on a 16K block and see how much she'll hold :eek: :cool:

He definitely has me thinking. I can make every part of my body grow but that. Hes afraid to drive the damn car. Thats the real problem. He doesnt even need to ever pull that engine out of the car. Its got everything it needs except for boost turned up and a good tune. He has unleaded 100 at the pump about 6 miles form his house. Spoiled brat and he doesnt have the balls to take advantage:biggrin:
 
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