TE62 Qs

[scojack_2001]

Your gonna need more than 100 octane to get to your goals, IMHO. Either increase the octane or go alchy. 111 octane will eventually eat 02s, but the Denso's are lead resistant and cheap. I get mine for just over $16 locally. I can certianly live with that.

 

[Mr.Spool]

homie,your leaving 100 horse on the table by not using race gas/alky and turning up the boost.114mph on 93 is good but i bet your combo and that 62 will surprise you with the boost up.

 

[Homie_Telefrag]

Alky

To me, running alky just doesnt seem right. Wasnt it only recently that the whole alky/T.T.chip/BOV craze started in the first place? I mean, its not like everyones been running an alky set-up since 1987, right? Not to turn this into a threadwar by any means, but I know of A LOT of cars going A LOT faster than me on just pump gas. I've seen 130+MPH with our motors on nothing more than 93 - as in no 113oct or alky used. My reason for not useing alky:
What if it cuts out mid-pass and Im running 24+PSI with 24* timing?
What if it starts cutting out intermittently throughout the pass?
What if I run out of alky and back to just pump gas?
What if a nozzle gets clogged and it doesnt inject properly?
I dont know the specifics with alky, and I dont care to know. I try and keep it to where its not complcated and less variables ( I.E., tune with/without alky, alky chip, etc.) Race gas is highly improbable for me as well - as from spring - fall I daily drive my GN (hard I may add.) Cheapest fuel here is 100 for 5/gal - which on a 9/hour income, gets expencive quick :frown: I guess when it all comes down to it, Im just old school about our cars....

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Its resent, as in 2001 is when the kits started getting even more popular. Alcohol injection has been around before our cars were made.

Ive had these alky kits for 8 years at least, the best part about them is you always have the same tune in the car ALL THE TIME.

I used to have to tune the car for higher octane, and when i had to put pump gas in it, or worse yet forget how much 92 is in the tank and think it had 104 sunoco. retune it for 93. One slip on what octane is in the tank and it will detonate.

You would be better off trying to keep the tune for 93 for now, if you start doing 100 octane, your still going to have 3-5 gallons of 93 in the tank.
So basically your going to have 96 -97 octane at best.

If you were to have the car on a strict diet of 100 and never 93, then that would be aok. I did this on my silver car years ago, was running 12.7 at 112 on radials on 104 octane with the stock turbo and injectors. The car got faster and faster once all the 92 octane was completely ran out of the tank over a month of racing it.

All my cars have a Meth kit. I used to have propane injection back in 1998 :biggrin:

Take it easy
BW

 

[Pronto]

I've seen 130+MPH with our motors on nothing more than 93 - as in no 113oct or alky used.

Please tell us who that was. I'm sure there would be some questions for that person.:biggrin:

 

[Homie_Telefrag]

Please tell us who that was. I'm sure there would be some questions for that person.:biggrin:

UR50SLO - 10.32 @ 133 MPH with 93 OCT through mufflers on a dot tire.

 

[Kevin87TurboT]

My 87 Turbo T went a best of 11.12 @ 124 mph with a TE62, 12" converter, bone stock engine and around 29 lbs of boost. It had a mixture of 93 octane and C12 with a bunch of meth being sprayed.

 

[Slow91z]

The F-body hybrid with a 76 and Champion heads??

Gee...Wonder why he's faster than you??

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

The F-body hybrid with a 76 and Champion heads??

Gee...Wonder why he's faster than you??

Who is it? Stock block?

BW

 

[Slow91z]

UR50SLO - 10.32 @ 133 MPH with 93 OCT through mufflers on a dot tire.

The F-body hybrid with a 76 and Champion heads??

Gee...Wonder why he's faster than you??

Who is it? Stock block?

BW

Here you go.

 

[Homie_Telefrag]

The thing is...

Yeah, I know he's faster - duh. My point is, he's not useing Alky to get there. He runs the same 93oct I put in my car every day. No race gas or alky used to go that fast. What Im trying to say is, if he uses the same 93gas I do, and has a lot larger turbo on his car than mine, and he goes 133mph, then how come my goal of 120mph is unattainable with 100oct and no alky? Im just a little confused as to how gaining 6mph is that hard when theres so much stuff I can do outside of using 113oct spraying alky running 24 degrees timing and 30psi boost - cause it seems thats what Im getting on here...

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Here you go.

I dont see it You must have forgot the link:wink:

BW

 

[Homie_Telefrag]

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/members/ur50slo.html

 

[Slow91z]

Yeah, I know he's faster - duh. My point is, he's not useing Alky to get there. He runs the same 93oct I put in my car every day. No race gas or alky used to go that fast. What Im trying to say is, if he uses the same 93gas I do, and has a lot larger turbo on his car than mine, and he goes 133mph, then how come my goal of 120mph is unattainable with 100oct and no alky? Im just a little confused as to how gaining 6mph is that hard when theres so much stuff I can do outside of using 113oct spraying alky running 24 degrees timing and 30psi boost - cause it seems thats what Im getting on here...

Ok I guess I'm going to have to get specific. You act like he only has a larger turbo, when in fact he has a more aerodynamic car (more MPH per HP), possibly a lighter car (same deal). I don't know what all he has done motorwise, but probably way more motor than you too which is the key to making power at low boost. Or you can spend way less money and put race fuel in the car (or alky works good for me) and go 120 MPH.

As an example my car has a 67, alky, ported heads intake, roller cam, front mount...I have no idea what it would run on pump gas but I went 127 at 24 psi.

What intercooler do you have on the car?

I dont see it You must have forgot the link:wink:

BW

No link, I just checked out dudes signature.

 

[Homie_Telefrag]

Fmic

I do have the extreme front mount from buickgn.com. I do see what you're saying about his car being an F-body and having a weight advantage and all. My question though I guess would have to be - do you find it practical to drive every day of the week from spring through fall spraying alky and running race gas? When I went 12.22 @ 114, thats how I drive the car every day. The only thing I changed at the MWBC was the tire pressure. I'd like it to have it as an 11 sec car that runs in the 120mph range every day. I've owned my GN for a little over 2 years now, and since owning it have put a little over 40K miles. I like getting in my car, driving off somewhere for an hour or so, racing someone, driving back, get ice cream, etc. I've thought of making my buick just a dedicated race car, but its too clean and fun to drive on the street the way it is. I just wondered if there was a way besides leaded race fuels and alky to get where I need to go. -Ben

 

[Slow91z]

I do have the extreme front mount from buickgn.com. I do see what you're saying about his car being an F-body and having a weight advantage and all. My question though I guess would have to be - do you find it practical to drive every day of the week from spring through fall spraying alky and running race gas? When I went 12.22 @ 114, thats how I drive the car every day. The only thing I changed at the MWBC was the tire pressure. I'd like it to have it as an 11 sec car that runs in the 120mph range every day. I've owned my GN for a little over 2 years now, and since owning it have put a little over 40K miles. I like getting in my car, driving off somewhere for an hour or so, racing someone, driving back, get ice cream, etc. I've thought of making my buick just a dedicated race car, but its too clean and fun to drive on the street the way it is. I just wondered if there was a way besides leaded race fuels and alky to get where I need to go. -Ben

My last Buick was my daily driver for about 4 years 30,000 miles with no issues related to alky (meaning it needed a battery and a starter during that time). It was running alky and 27-30 psi the entire time. It was an 11 sec. car with a stock longblock, all I did to go to the track was change tires. Do not get me wrong, I had to take my time and tune carefully, but I didn't do anything out of the ordinary.

And yes you can get there without it...Just open that wallet and build yourself a serious motor.

P.S. The car would go 11's with much less boost than that, but I was trying for everything I could get out of it.

 

[Pronto]

I don't drive my car as a daily but I don't change my tune, I drive in, air down the tires and go. Drive it home and go to the Cruise on Saturdays.