Transmission service

[eagleguy]

It was suggested to me that while having the rear engine seal replaced on my 86 T Type that I might also consider changing the tranny fluid and filter. Car has 26K original miles and original fluid. Does anyone have a part number correct gasket and filter. Trans is all original including pan.

 

[Wes]

http://www.gnttype.org/maint/basics.html

This has some good info as far as regular type maintenance goes.

 

[eagleguy]

Good info

Thanks

 

[gunzandgearz]

It is a good idea to change out the fluid and filter on your trans about every 15,000 miles but I personally wouldn't use fram anything, as they are the worst filters made.As far as the rearend another good idea but I disagree with what that guy said about using the synthetic fluid, NEVER use synthetic fluid in a clutch style differential, as it is too slick and will smoke the clutches in the carrier, just use standard gear oil and a posi additive(a must)in any posi unit. The motorcraft is the best stuff out there and is what I use on every rear I build. good luck.

 

[eagleguy]

I was wondering when changing fluid does anyone use something other than DEX 3 and add Lube Guard "Red"? When I had a "built" 2004R in my 71 Buick I was told by the rebuilder Lube Guard "Red" was actually a good thing and I believe they used DEX 5 or 6 in place of DEX 3 but can't remember

 

[TexasT]

I use the tractor fluid, and a 700r4 filter for its bottom feed. I run the trans. One quart over full to help eliminate "sucking air".
Dex6 looks like a good product, unfortunate it doesn't fit in my budget. Not sure on the lubeguard stuff. My dad always told me if the additive stuff was that great the fluid mfg would have it included in their fluid already.

If you do go with a 700 filter you need to do something about the vb pressure switch so I doesn't ground on the metal filter and cause problems. I used some he's shrink.


Yours probably wont be this clean and you will be looking at it from under the car. Thus is on the stand inside down.

 

[INEEDAGN]

I wouldn't run a 700 filter in a low mile original car. It's not like it's gonna be pulling the front tires off the ground at the strip. I WOULD run it a bit overfull though.

Truthfully, with the hassle of stretching the stock pan around the 700 filter, I probably won't do that again in anything I build. It works but IMO it's not worth the hassle when you can run a pan spacer or deep pan.

And for what the OP is doing, any fluid will work as good as the other. And since dex 3 is the cheapest...

Just stay away from rubber pan gaskets

 

[gunzandgearz]

Run the dex 3 and lubreguard platinum not the red, the red is a great product but the platinum Is the best that lubeguard has to offer and is only a few bucks more. I install this in every unit I build as it is the best stuff on the market, it lubes the valves good and drops the operating temps by about 15 degrees.As far as filter choice that's up to you since your not racing the car either will work,fluid level can be a little over but not too much as if it is too full the fliuid will end up in the gear train and introduce air into the fluid not good. Gasket choice, I definitely agree with Ineedagn on this one run the cork gasket and before you put the pan back on check to see if the holes aren't sticking up past the pan rail surface, if they are, set the pan rail on your bench and tap them back down level with the rail then you will have no leaks, by the way you wont find a cork gasket or a good filter at your local supply house so buy them at a transmission supply house and tell them you don't want the Chinese filter, also youll save about 75% on the filter and gasket compared too oreillys or auto zone and you wont get the Chinese filter and cheap paper gasket.

 

[eagleguy]

Changed the fluid (trans only, 6 qts) and filter. My son not realizing I had already added 6 oz of Lube Gard Red to the fluid as per instructions (1oz per quart of trans fluid) added an additional bottle, 10 oz. So now I have a total of 16 oz of Lube Gard mixed with my fluid. Will this harm anything? Should I suck out some fluid and replace with regular Dex III? Can't call the company until tomorrow.

 

[INEEDAGN]

i doubt it will hurt anything

 

[kandc7]

I have Lonnie stage 3 200 and said to use b&m trick shift.

 

[Nick Micale]

Run the dex 3 and lubreguard platinum not the red, the red is a great product but the platinum Is the best that lubeguard has to offer and is only a few bucks more. I install this in every unit I build as it is the best stuff on the market, ...........

After discussing this with you a week or so ago, actually you did the talking , about Lubeguard Platinum I did some looking and found lots of reviews which had nothing but good comments!

Many owners were able to get 1000's of more miles after tranny shops told them it needed an overhaul, and many other good comments.

Since I always want to find new and good stuff, I put a bottle in my stock driver street car to check it out.

It seems to have better shifts, not hard, just quicker and more firm, more like our performance build trans, I just like how it feel now. After it has more miles I will pull the pan and see how much or little crud I have in the pan.

With other automotive fluids like oil and antifreeze, I have found they contain minimal additives, this is the good, expensive stuff, and just enough to get by for a while is used. The oil or glycol does not give up, the additives do, especially if the operating temps go up like in our modified engines.

I know that RMI-25 extends coolant life, no reason a premium additive would not extend trans fluid life?

 

[eagleguy]

I finally contacted Lube Gard and was told there was no issue with the amount I added. I also inquired as to if Platinum was better and was told the Red was best suited for my application.

 

[Nick Micale]

I finally contacted Lube Gard and was told there was no issue with the amount I added. I also inquired as to if Platinum was better and was told the Red was best suited for my application.

That is weird?

Maybe your application or use is different than mine, as I talked with a rep today, and was told Platinum is better all-around than Red.

I had my Limited out for an extended drive today and impressed more with the Lubegard treatment, as it acted even better now with some miles, like it was a fresh built trans!

 

[eagleguy]

Have no idea as I am running a stock trans. That's what the tech I was put into contact with on the phone told me. Either way everything seems to be working fine.

 

[gunzandgearz]

After discussing this with you a week or so ago, actually you did the talking , about Lubeguard Platinum I did some looking and found lots of reviews which had nothing but good comments!

Many owners were able to get 1000's of more miles after tranny shops told them it needed an overhaul, and many other good comments.

Since I always want to find new and good stuff, I put a bottle in my stock driver street car to check it out.

It seems to have better shifts, not hard, just quicker and more firm, more like our performance build trans, I just like how it feel now. After it has more miles I will pull the pan and see how much or little crud I have in the pan.

With other automotive fluids like oil and antifreeze, I have found they contain minimal additives, this is the good, expensive stuff, and just enough to get by for a while is used. The oil or glycol does not give up, the additives do, especially if the operating temps go up like in our modified engines.

I know that RMI-25 extends coolant life, no reason a premium additive would not extend trans fluid life?

Thanks nick I enjoyed talking to you, you are an expert in the field and I always enjoy speaking with other people like myself who enjoys cars and sinks tons of time and effort in this field, thanks for the time and I know well talk again. The lubeguard product is a great product and I install this in every build I do and have had excellent results out of there products, cant go wrong with this one unlike most of the stuff out there, which is smoke and mirrors or snake oil, 90% of it doesn't flat out doesn't work and im not just talking about the transmission stuff im also talking about oil and or oil additives and the differential products as well, and by the way I attend the ATSG seminars every year and am always speaking with the lubeguard rep at the seminar and the platinum is the way to fly not the red, the red is good but its not the platinum.

 

[eagleguy]

That is weird?

Maybe your application or use is different than mine, as I talked with a rep today, and was told Platinum is better all-around than Red.

I had my Limited out for an extended drive today and impressed more with the Lubegard treatment, as it acted even better now with some miles, like it was a fresh built trans!

You had me thinking so I called Lube Gard again. Basically the reason for them not recommending Platinum was because I indicated I already had older Dex III in the system. I was told the Platinum is a newer product with enhanced capabilities and would work also work fine but cost more for benefits I might not realize. For my application I was told the Red was fine considering I had no current issues and the trans was stock. I should note that Platinum which was said to be compatible with any fluid was recommended if I had any shuddering issues which I do not. Thanks again for the input and I now know the Platinum might have been a better choice if the Red wasn't already added. Next change I might try the Platinum.