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I just pulled my header & down pipe to find a exhaust leak and noticed the exhaust impeller has a odd shaped center hub . Is this OK , or is that done for balancing ? There are no spool-up , boost , shaft end play , or noise problems , just wondering before I put it back together.
Also is there suppose to be a gasket between turbo and downpipe ?
 

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Thanks thats what I thought , sort of like how we balanced electric motor armatures at Delco , just grind off some material in the right spot and spin'em fast !!
 
I just pulled my header & down pipe to find a exhaust leak and noticed the exhaust impeller has a odd shaped center hub . Is this OK , or is that done for balancing ? There are no spool-up , boost , shaft end play , or noise problems , just wondering before I put it back together.
Also is there suppose to be a gasket between turbo and downpipe ?

what type of downpipe you running because of the carbon around the waste gate hole if it's a terry houston type the puck is not sealing. Or if it is a ATR type with a external gate it is not sealing the wastegate hole and affecting spool up.

Steve
 
I think it's ATR but not sure , here are some pics. I read that guys like the copper header gaskets , are they better ?
 

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Sorry, headers are suppose to be ATR's , downpipe ???
 
I would be porting the downpipe a bit where that carbon mark was left by the exhaust wheel, and possibly open up the downpipe holes a bit (in the right direction to get the puck closer to center on the wastegate hole.
 
Yes, that turbine wheel nut is normal, that is where they remove material from when balancing at the factory.

It looks like either a G-Body parts downpipe or GN1 Performance downpipe to me as ATR and Terry Houston were not polished or bright and shiny.
I also agree with what WSLN 6 just said. Slight porting of the downpipe in these areas.


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Also, porting your wastegate hole in your turbine housing, will help the puck to seal better and potentially help spool up faster.
Hope some of this helps.

Patrick
 
Where should I port the wastegate hole ? I'm not quite sure what you mean. How would I center up the wastegate puck? Great info , I never thought of port matching on the turbo !
 
The as cast wastegate hole in the turbine housing should measure close to .900" right now. Typically people would open this hole up to 1.12" 1.15" leaving about 1/16" for the puck to seal against.
See this picture reference.

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You would need to establish a better witness mark on your turbine housing before porting, as there is too much carbon build up to actually see where your puck falls / covers the hole. You have a witness ring on the actual puck, but that doesn't help up. It just shows where there is potential for a leak, not where you need to port. Also, keep in mind, that because of the bolt hole size in the downpipe, the pipe can physically be moved slightly with the bolts installed but loose. This can also affect the actual placement of where the puck falls.

The method I've used is, put some marking compound, shoe polish or even grease on the puck face. Bolt the downpipe up and tighten the bolts. Now, use a scribe to mark the downpipe flange and turbine housing straight across. These will be alignment marks that will help you when you re-install the the downpipe. This takes the bolt hole slop out of the equation. Once installed, slap the puck to the housing. Remove the downpipe and you should have a nice witness mark on the face of your turbine housing. You want to port the hole so that there is at least a 1/16th of an inch ledge that the puck can seal on. The hole does not need to be perfect, but you do need a lip that the puck can seal on. This is very critical as not ported correctly, the puck won't seal and you will have severe turbo lag.

Also you can port the inside edge of the hole, removing the sharp ledge that's on the inside of the wastegate hole. The lip that's closest to the 3-bolt inlet flange. See these pictures.

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Hope some of this helps.

Patrick
 
Patrick , Thank you for the great pics and info . This should be no problem, and when I upgrade my turbo you'll be the first one I call
Thanks again
Sam
 
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