What would you do??
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If the motor is truely bored AND stroked, i would upgrade from your .62 turbo to a 70 or 72 turbo.
Then do some upper and lower control arms, to strengthen the rear setup get some 4 speed bars from hotchkis and possibly some no hop bars to help with traction.
BW
Then do some upper and lower control arms, to strengthen the rear setup get some 4 speed bars from hotchkis and possibly some no hop bars to help with traction.
BW
bullet87 said:With my setup below and a new bored out stroked motor comming what would be your next top two buys.
So far I am thinking of upgrading to whole fuel system to external with ss braded lines. Plan on having like 2k to play with. Give me some opinions..
With 2k.. FAST XFI.
Without engine management.. there is too much guessing.
You'll be thinking of this reply for a long time
Your going to need to work on beefing up the bottom end of the motor. Ie, Girdle.
Bored and stroked had no mention of the girdle.
Assumme you di aftermarket heads/intake/roller cam.
Next is the converter to complement the turbo.. whatever that ends up being. Its just never one single thing. Big turbo is typically last on my things to do. As it is the easiest part to change.
Fuel wise the double pumper or alcohol injection. Single pump wont cut it once you start needing to feed it fuel.
The ME-r is a great setup if you follow Steve's recomendations. I have gone through all the setups.. they all can be made to work. I'm happy with what i'm doing now, and my last car still has the ME-r in it and runs really strong.
Concentrate on getting the motor up and running.. and keep a hightened sense of awareness with the new engine, till hundreds of miles are on it.
My suggestion above for the FAST was due to the number available 2K. Whereby all the other items are in the hundreds..4 hundred here.. 3 hundred there.. etc. And big purchases are typically hard to do a BLAM!!! Way easier a few hundred here and there.
HTH
Bored and stroked had no mention of the girdle.
Assumme you di aftermarket heads/intake/roller cam.
Next is the converter to complement the turbo.. whatever that ends up being. Its just never one single thing. Big turbo is typically last on my things to do. As it is the easiest part to change.
Fuel wise the double pumper or alcohol injection. Single pump wont cut it once you start needing to feed it fuel.
The ME-r is a great setup if you follow Steve's recomendations. I have gone through all the setups.. they all can be made to work. I'm happy with what i'm doing now, and my last car still has the ME-r in it and runs really strong.
Concentrate on getting the motor up and running.. and keep a hightened sense of awareness with the new engine, till hundreds of miles are on it.
My suggestion above for the FAST was due to the number available 2K. Whereby all the other items are in the hundreds..4 hundred here.. 3 hundred there.. etc. And big purchases are typically hard to do a BLAM!!! Way easier a few hundred here and there.
HTH
bullet87 said:
The best motor with a bad tune-up will come down really fast. Your the one behind the pedal.. it ultimately falls on your responsibilty for whatever happens.
The best money spent is in electronics to monitor what your doing. Then creating layers upon layers to triple confirm everything. Like widebands, egt's, dataloggers, etc...
A junk motor with a good tuneup will outdo the baddest motor with an unknown tuneup. Especially when it comes time to really turn the wick up.
Unless lady luck is on your side :wink: I cant count on her all the time :biggrin: .
I totally agree, the would be so much easier than a ME-R as far as tunning. One thing I like about the ME-R is that you don't have to be a pocket rocket to figure/tune it yourself. I would like to get rid of a bunch of wires and go with the FAST system. So if I go with the FAST system I can of course get rid of the ME, but do I get rid of the my low z ECU and direct scan?
bullet87 said:
The big issue with FAST is having the support after the sale. Without that.. your hosed. Just like the ME-r.. if Steve werent as available as he is.. you'd be hosed. That is why for the money the ME-r is above a tremendous value.. due to the support you get with the product. As you said, you have him on speed dial :biggrin: Me too still :wink:
The FAST will run any injector, has the wideband, datalogger, etc. So yes you would ditch everything related to the stock ecu. No more scanmaster either. The startup program and tech assist Buick specific is where your efforts need to be concentrated if going this route. Having someone running it locally also helps tremendously. The WOT is a piece of cake. The drivability is where the support in my opinion is needed(cold start/tip in/decel/etc)
Performance ECM's section of the board for further reading.
HTH
