I agree with charlloots i took mine off and iam trying to sell them for since they arent made anymore but they are aslo rust pockets i took mine off and needed to do body work, makes the car look smoother, next is i want to take off the body side moldings but other ppl dont know how to open up car doors and i refuse to go to jail for murder because i will kill somebody if i find a dent in my door from another person.