When do you go from a stock mount intercooler to a front?

[20psiofevil]

I'm running a 31 x 12 x 3 cx racing bar and plate kit. 16psi, ambient 52*, peak air hit 74*. During summer months 90* weather the temps stay under 110*.

This ic has around a 3-4psi drop and if I could do it again i would have gotten the 4" thick cooler.

Scale on left is air aharge temp, yellow line is the act. others are rpm and throttle position,

 

[Grumpy]

Obviously you are getting a ton of opinions and there are a ton more out there...mine opinion is the time to change to a front mount is as soon as you get tired of working around that retarded stock location.

Intercoolers go where the fresh air is, not in hot engine compartments making life harder everytime you do anything in that area of the engine compartment.

Yes cooling issues can arise, but if your cooling system can't handle an intercooler out front, it was on the edge anyway.

What are you guys doin working on the front of the motor all the time ??? Crappy PTE here in the 9s with that heatsinker

 

[Slow91z]

What are you guys doin working on the front of the motor all the time ??? Crappy PTE here in the 9s with that heatsinker

Don't know if I'd say all the time, but everytime I go near someone else's car with a stock location it ends up in my way somehow or another...I wish all my friends had front mounts.

 

[ikle]

Correct me if I am wrong, the job of an intercooler is to cool the air, the cooler the air the more power (boost) can be made for a given octane. I have read many threads on this topic and it seems to be the same old pissing match. To me the only thing that time slips show is that ones combo/tune is or isn't working. When it comes to intercoolers what matters to me is "inlet temps". So I have an idea why dont people start posting up their ambient and inlet temps proving how effient their intercooler are, so others can decide which route they want to take based upon facts, not opinions. What do you guys think, if it is alright with the op you can post your results here or start another thread. I think this might be a good way to some what end the FMIC vs SLIC debate.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

in a car with alky and any A to A IC which one is doing the heavy lifting as far as cooling?

 

[Grumpy]

To me the only thing that time slips show is that ones combo/tune is or isn't working.

well bigger isn't always better as far as combo's .. BUT most of the people in here don't believe that either. We run alky so that prob helps our POS PTE SLIC a lot !! Never checked inlet temps so can't give ya imput there. BUT it can't be that bad I like to keep it simple an stupid. Lots of mis matched "combo's" in here. As far as tuning not all will be the same. We drive ours like we stole it !!! Thats what it's all about to us. Others putter around with 12#s of boost so they don't hurt it

 

[Grumpy]

in a car with alky and any A to A IC which one is doing the heavy lifting as far as cooling?

Both working together

 

[Slow91z]

Correct me if I am wrong, the job of an intercooler is to cool the air, the cooler the air the more power (boost) can be made for a given octane. I have read many threads on this topic and it seems to be the same old pissing match. To me the only thing that time slips show is that ones combo/tune is or isn't working. When it comes to intercoolers what matters to me is "inlet temps". So I have an idea why dont people start posting up their ambient and inlet temps proving how effient their intercooler are, so others can decide which route they want to take based upon facts, not opinions. What do you guys think, if it is alright with the op you can post your results here or start another thread. I think this might be a good way to some what end the FMIC vs SLIC debate.

Well here comes your correction...every combo is different, different turbos on different boost settings on different engines will put more or less heat into the air...only way to test a bunch of different cars is to have a temp reading after the turbo before the intercooler AND one after the intercooler in basically the same spot on the different cars and see how much the intercooler cools the air...and then you still have pressure drops and cfm and all kinds of cool stuff normal guys can't/won't test.

Years and years ago someone did this, but the intercoolers available are vastly different now.

 

[SPOOLFOOL2]

Well here comes your correction...every combo is different, different turbos on different boost settings on different engines will put more or less heat into the air...only way to test a bunch of different cars is to have a temp reading after the turbo before the intercooler AND one after the intercooler in basically the same spot on the different cars and see how much the intercooler cools the air...and then you still have pressure drops and cfm and all kinds of cool stuff normal guys can't/won't test.

Years and years ago someone did this, but the intercoolers available are vastly different now.

I've been wanting to do this for a few years. Just haven't had the time. You'd also want to get the air temp at the back of the dog house, after the alky for those of us spraying the booze. It would be nice to see some good data on current IC comparisons.

Happy spooling.

Mike Barnard

 

[Slow91z]

That would be super cool.

 

[ikle]

. It would be nice to see some good data on current IC comparisons.

Happy spooling.

Mike Barnard

X2

 

[REAPER231]

IF we ever went to one I had to buy it would be RJC's .. He has 2 different ones.

I agree best money I ever spent .

 

[T-CHRGD]

IF we ever went to one I had to buy it would be RJC's .. He has 2 different ones.

Correction - they have 3. The 475, 325, and the new 315-XTF. The new one is designed to flow more air through to the radiator, but it is still Huge! I have one ready to go on my car. Replacing the old Cartech front mount.