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Originally posted by baadgn
Ted

My boy I never stated that I had the (fastest TSO legal car) In fact my sig says TSO outlaw whats been said is that I have the fastest stock suspension v6 buick. You have never seen my car with the 88 so you don't know whats legal on it and whats not. So for you to make any statement about knowing my combo is a mute point. Its too bad your not racing TSO this year ;) But then again I have a TSM car that is going together so either way we will meet :eek:. John Thanks for the vote of confidence TSO will be fun This year If I can get this new turbo spooled who knows but anyhow records should be broken this year.


Sorry to have offended you Tony by my statement. I did not single you out, and maybe there has been somebody who has ran faster than you, who knows. If this discussion is going to be about TSO cars then lets keep it LEGAL TSO cars before all kinds of false information gets spread.

Little defensive??? ;)
 
Originally posted by HighPSI
If I remember correctly, only 5 cars have ever passed TSO tech in the history of the class. I too believe that the Stage2 headed cars are going to be the fastest now that the bigger turbos are allowed. With that said, I'm not counting Jeff or Joe out.

Thats funny.

Who else is going to be running S2 heads this year other than Tony and Dave? I think this is going to be a break out year for the class. It seems like a lot of cars are going to be finished this year and a lot of guys seem to have thier combos sorted enough to race. Should be a lot of fun.
 
Originally posted by Ted A.
Sorry to have offended you Tony by my statement. I did not single you out, and maybe there has been somebody who has ran faster than you, who knows. If this discussion is going to be about TSO cars then lets keep it LEGAL TSO cars before all kinds of false information gets spread.

Little defensive??? ;)

I am not the only one here that feels that statement was directed towards me but if you want to back off I understand In your position its the smart thing to do. As far as my car being TSO legal now, your backing off from running the class so as they say don't worry about.
 
fastest tso car.

hey tony hows the new motor comin along? my car is still in the ford racers chassic shop, with the worms [ficus] old used parts . and a new pte turbo to go with the stage heads, we are going to run OSCA we ficus and i need some more buicks to run osca with us, payout is far greater than other heads up classes, fast cars in the class are going 5.40 and 5,50 so i have to find a few more hp, yes they only run1/8 mile , see you in may, oc,:) slo heavy tso car,
 
Hey Odell,
I almost forgot you went to S2 heads also. I have a few OSCA races I plan to attend this year. WHat class are you in?
 
fastest tso car

Cris. true street, no w tires, no wheelie bars, waste gate dump anywhere, exhaust exit past door. weight 3250 lbs 90 turbo. i think that is some of the rules i could be wrong, dave ficus runs same class. chassic shop has had my car for 101 days. doing work that i or my son couldnt do, hope to get it back soon, ficus should have his car done in a few days i talked to him last week, see you in may, oc,
 
true street, no w tires, no wheelie bars, waste gate dump anywhere, exhaust exit past door. weight 3250 lbs 90 turbo

OC,

Does this mean, you took your wheelie bars off?
 
Anyone have a list of rules for the class this year. Id hate to be tossed out for something as simple as a sheetmetal wing.:D
 
Re: fastest tso car.

Originally posted by odell4o8
hey tony hows the new motor comin along? my car is still in the ford racers chassic shop, with the worms [ficus] old used parts . and a new pte turbo to go with the stage heads, we are going to run OSCA we ficus and i need some more buicks to run osca with us, payout is far greater than other heads up classes, fast cars in the class are going 5.40 and 5,50 so i have to find a few more hp, yes they only run1/8 mile , see you in may, oc,:) slo heavy tso car,

Odell
New motor is done should be dropping it in the car soon made lots of changes so it will be sort of a new car. We will have it on the dyno and hopefully the track before bowling green. Sounds like your making some changes yourself Im thinking we are going to see a few 8 sec passes a bowling green.
 
Originally posted by HighPSI
OUCH!!! That just isn't right! :D

I look forward to meeting Jeff this year. He can't be THAT bad

He has run a 1.27 60ft, it is inevitable, the car is going to end up dragging the bumper, happens to most everyone with stock style rear suspension when you start making some power...here is a direct quote from him. " If that happens, I aint gonna lift, I think I can find the balance point (as if he were on a motorcycle) and ride it out without dragging". He needs some seat time, it is tough to find time to get to the track for testing...then again it could be the slave wages I am paying him and he cant afford admission.
 
Originally posted by HighPSI
OUCH!!! That just isn't right! :D

I look forward to meeting Jeff this year. He can't be THAT bad
I would line up against him.... after he does his burnout! :D
 
Originally posted by EightSecV6
He has run a 1.27 60ft, it is inevitable, the car is going to end up dragging the bumper, happens to most everyone with stock style rear suspension when you start making some power...here is a direct quote from him. " If that happens, I aint gonna lift, I think I can find the balance point (as if he were on a motorcycle) and ride it out without dragging". He needs some seat time, it is tough to find time to get to the track for testing...then again it could be the slave wages I am paying him and he cant afford admission.

Holy Crap is that funny.

Jeff remember, If all you see is sky, and the stands are only visible on the bottom quater of the side glass,U are way to high.

oh and its ok if you scream like a little girl inside the car too... trust me no one can hear you past the sound of scraping metal:D
 
Re: Re: fastest tso car.

Originally posted by baadgn
Odell
New motor is done should be dropping it in the car soon made lots of changes so it will be sort of a new car. We will have it on the dyno and hopefully the track before bowling green. Sounds like your making some changes yourself Im thinking we are going to see a few 8 sec passes a bowling green.
Hey Tony, If you need any help, give me a call,Ill come up and give you a hand.Just waiting for my heads to get back and my spool to get here.
Oh yea, Mark Soracin said to say Hi.
 
Originally posted by turbobuick
Thats funny.

Who else is going to be running S2 heads this year other than Tony and Dave? I think this is going to be a break out year for the class. It seems like a lot of cars are going to be finished this year and a lot of guys seem to have thier combos sorted enough to race. Should be a lot of fun.
Where are the "official" TSO rules posted? If Stage II heads are illegal then I guess I couldn't run if I wanted to.
 
Art stage 2 heads are legal,I am not 100% sure on everything your car has, But i believe it would be TSO legal.
Here are the rules

GENERAL
Qualifying ET is 9.99 or quicker.
Heads-up .400 pro tree start and pro ladder.
Winner and runner-up are subject to re-weigh and re-tech immediately after final round or at any other time.

CHASSIS
Car must possess all applicable safety equipment for potential ET/speeds attained and should comply with all host track safety requirements IHRA/NHRA.
Minimum car weight with driver must be at least 3,400 pounds
Removable ballast for the purpose of classification adjustments is limited to 100 pounds and should be per NHRA/IHRA ballast rules. Maximum allowable removable/permanent is 500 lbs. Ballast must be bolted to frame or crossmember with a minimum of two ½ inch diameter bolts per 100 lbs. Water reservoirs for use with intercoolers are not considered ballast and are permitted.
Stock wheelbase required (108.0" measured +/- ½ inch).
Engine/firewall must be in stock location.
Factory stock body lines/contours must be maintained (i.e. hood, doors, fenders, wheel openings, bumpers, trunk lid, etc). Rear stabilizer wings are allowed.
Any fiberglass or carbon fiber body panels, bumpers, etc. allowed.
Complete, painted Buick Turbo Regal/Grand National body required.
Stock operating glass windows and windshield are required, no lexan.
Lights, horn, and necessary equipment for street use must be operational. Windshield wipers, heater and AC are all optional.
Stock front inner wheel wells required.
Full stock GM frame is required, no tube chassis cars are allowed.
Modifications to stock rear wheel wells allowed, mini-tubs are allowed.
Reinforcements at inner rear frame rails are allowed.

REAR SUSPENSION:
-Stock inner frame rails required
-Aftermarket 4 links and ladder bars are not permitted. Stock type 4 link suspensions must maintain stock lateral angles and attachment points may be moved up or down on rear axle housing. Attachment points on frame must remain in stock location. Wheelie bars prohibited.
-Rear coil overs allowed with 50# weight penalty

FRONT SUSPENSION:
Aftermarket direct-replacement components are allowed as long as stock mounting points are maintained on components and frame.

BRAKES
The braking system may be upgraded. All cars must have front and rear hydraulic brakes. Automated brakes or any type of traction control is prohibited. Application and release of brakes must be a function of the driver's foot. Line loc permitted.

COOLING SYSTEM
Radiator - An OEM production-style or aftermarket fullsize radiator is required and must be mounted in stock location.


ENGINE
Any Buick V6 cylinder block allowed, no cubic inch displacement limits.
Any oil pan allowed. No dry sump oiling systems allowed.
Any cylinder heads, allowed.
Any intake manifold and plenum allowed.
Any size stock or aftermarket throttle body allowed
Any type of headers & crossover allowed.
No restrictions on engine driven accessories; i.e. alternator, water pump, p/s, etc.
A/C and heating equipment may be removed.

TURBO, DOWNPIPE & INTERCOOLER
Maximum turbo size is 88mm compressor wheel no large frame or full thumper style turbos.
TO4 style turbo given 150# weight break for 76mm max.
Any header configuration allowed. Exhaust pipe OD is unlimited, downpipe must be routed down through the stock location and the exhaust pipe must extend beyond the leading edge of the driver's seat with the exhaust directed to the side by means of a turnout or turndown.
Exhaust system must have a muffler(s) in the exhaust system and all exhaust gasses must pass though the muffler(s).
Any wastegate configuration allowed.
Any air to air intercooler is allowed.
Liquid intercoolers allowed with a 75# weight penalty, liquid not considered a ballast and can be run with production style heads only. (James wants to axe this rule and keep liquids out all together.)
No intercooler external spray cooling allowed.

ENGINE MANAGEMENT & FUEL SYSTEM
Battery may be in any location.
Any ECM/fuel management system is allowed w/ any onboard electronics are allowed.
Any air induction system allowed.
Stock fuel tank w/sump addition or fuel cell allowed.
Any fuel pump(s) configuration/location w/ any fuel lines allowed.
Any fuel rail(s) allowed.
Any type fuel pressure regulator allowed.
Any size fuel injectors allowed, no limit on number used.
Gasoline fuel only, no additives, alcohol, or nitrous oxide injection allowed.

BRACKET RACING AIDS
Bracket racing aids such as optical sensors, delay boxes, stutter boxes, and throttle stops are not allowed. The application or use of any device, mechanical or electronic, that permits the driver to ascertain the position of their vehicle in relation to the starting line is prohibited.

TRANSMISSION
Any GM automatic transmission with torque converter is allowed. Transbrake is allowed. Aftermarket shifter allowed but any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or as direct action of the driver. Pneumatic, hydraulic, electric, etc. shifters prohibited.

WHEELS & TIRES
Any matched set of four wheels allowed.
Slicks w/ sidewall designation up to a 29.5” x 11.50” -15” size tire w/ a maximum measured footprint of 11.25” is allowed
DOT street tires w/sidewall designations up to a 30.0” x 13.50”-15” size tire are allowed.

INTERIOR
Stock dash must be retained with any gauges and any transmission shifter allowed.
Car must have a fully carpeted floor board w/2 front seats, door panels, headliner, applicable interior trim, etc. Rear seat may be removed; area must be carpeted to match.
 
Otto,
I don't think those are the TSO rules. The GSCA sight has them posted. Liquid intercoolers aren't allowed and I don't believe their is a weight break for 76 turbos
 
I got those off Cottons website, I thought they were the latest,I can get a weight break for my 76 turbo?? Woo hoooo, To bad i cant get that much weight out of my car,Damnit, weres that sawzall:D
Hey you never called me back on those helicoils
 
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