2004R Bands

[WillRideAgain]

Kevlar lined band vs Extra Wide band in a rebuild for a 11sec. turbo regal. Which one would be better choice or is there any difference?

 

[JimP]

Most are going with the Alto Red Eagle extra wide band, and billet band anchor pin. I've researched this stuff up and down, just rebuilt my trans. I received a lot of good advice from members here and the Alto Red Eagle is what I went with.

Jim

 

[V6RACER]

Alto wide band

-billet band pin if no cushion spring in servo

 

[jakeshoe]

I don't use a "red" anything friction wise in a trans anymore. Especially an Alto red band.

 

[Steve V]

Carbon band is the newest tech.

 

[sweetv6]

Carbon band is the newest tech.

i used that one

dont use kevlar band

cp

 

[QUIP'6']

janis just did mine with a carbon band and a ck performance billet servo.

 

[mikestertwo]

I don't use a "red" anything friction wise in a trans anymore. Especially an Alto red band.

Out of curiosity, what is wrong with the "red" frictions?

 

[QUIP'6']

Seen. Lining come apart or peal off

 

[larrym]

Don't the reds generate more heat also?

 

[jakeshoe]

Reason I don't use Alto bands...

 

[mikestertwo]

Reason I don't use Alto bands...

!!!!!!!

 

[Duts87ss]

Double

 

[larrym]

triple

I had water damaged direct clutches do that to me, locked the directs cooked the band and the drum.

 

[quickt]

Alto has bit my butt one to many times. I dont use anything ALTO.

 

[McHaggis]

I was hoping someone else would ask this but.... If you guys are saying not to use ALTO Red frictions what should we be using, and in which clutch packs of the 200-4R?

 

[mikestertwo]

I was hoping someone else would ask this but.... If you guys are saying not to use ALTO Red frictions what should we be using, and in which clutch packs of the 200-4R?

That was my next question

 

[77 cruiser]

At one point I thought Alto was the frictions to use, top of the line. Did quality go down as of late?

 

[JimP]

From what I heard, about 3-4 years ago Alto may have shipped out a lot of frictions which had been exposed to high moisture / water, this resulted in frictions coming off of the backing as in Jake's photo. Rumor?

 

[SSedan64]

I heard a similar reason, Bad batches of Bonding agent. Raybestos also had problems a while back on their Blue Frictions.