572 GM Crate? Anyone done it?

[SS/GN]

Well if you are going to go the 572 put it in a Monte SS because they were not known to be fast and you will probably get more thumbs upThe 572 or the LS engine just does not go with what these cars were all about.The LS is the new cool thing to do,guys are putting them in everythingIt is not a surprise to see one at a cruise night for sure.In the end it is just another V8 in a G bodyMy friend did the 572 in a Chevelle,sure does like to consume alot of fuel,and the headers were a royal pain JMHO

Kevin

 

[novaderrik]

Well if you are going to go the 572 put it in a Monte SS because they were not known to be fast and you will probably get more thumbs upThe 572 or the LS engine just does not go with what these cars were all about.The LS is the new cool thing to do,guys are putting them in everythingIt is not a surprise to see one at a cruise night for sure.In the end it is just another V8 in a G bodyMy friend did the 572 in a Chevelle,sure does like to consume alot of fuel,and the headers were a royal pain JMHO

Kevin

if you have a GN with a non original engine and trans- or you love the car but are sick of replacing head gaskets every time you accidentally over boost it- then a V8 swap starts to look pretty tempting... i know i'm probably going to put a 5.3 or 6.0 with a 5 speed manual of some kind in my T Type if the money tree ever gives me some cash.. yeah, the boost is fun- but the gas mileage just isn't as good as it should be given the technology that they put in the car and i just can't keep an inferior engine design in a car just because it's "different". i'll let the import dweebs brag about how much hp their engine puts out per inch of displacement when they get to the finish line after me..

 

[oldsracer]

Their are stock block cars going 10s with little work. Has their every been a 572 dropped in a car and done that. Im not being a dick but I think after you spend as that much on a crate motor, custom headers, and all the other stuff...I think it would be better if you just built a potent V6. No need to go stage 2 or anything else. If your gonna drive it and race once and a while then just put a nice size turbo on a v6 with supporting mods, get it tuned, and be done with it.

 

[trixdout]

Their are stock block cars going 10s with little work. Has their every been a 572 dropped in a car and done that. Im not being a dick but I think after you spend as that much on a crate motor, custom headers, and all the other stuff...I think it would be better if you just built a potent V6. No need to go stage 2 or anything else. If your gonna drive it and race once and a while then just put a nice size turbo on a v6 with supporting mods, get it tuned, and be done with it.

definitely got a point, plus with a engine that huge and modded the power could hurt the chassis and frame. Got reinforce it as well. Not saying you don't have to with a potent v6.

 

[SHADOWII]

you purists are funny..

We're not really purists, as we allow for any mod's, including cages. Many of us remember the roots of the tr/gn/gnx and how frustrating it was trying to wring out 1 more hp from what was considered a performance vehicle after the raising of the muscle car era by the insurance, epa and government. The tr's are what rose from the ashes as the savior for us gearheads. My 83 T (back in 83) was considered the quickest new car from 0-60 @ 11.8 seconds! It had a top speed of 85mph! And no chips available in those days. So we kind of grew together w/the v-6. We have or had other fast cars, ie, camaro's, mustangs, etc, but would you put a ford eng. in a camaro or an lsx in a cuda, or a hemi in a mustang and still consider it a camaro, cuda or mustang?

 

[SHADOWII]

Oh, in the parts for sale section, there is a good deal on a T/A motor. (which I wish I had the money for!)

 

[jasjamz]

Its his car...he car do as he wishes. However, don't be surprised when you get this type of treatment the rest of the time you own the cross breed. Cross breeds are only liked by power plant enthusiast. So....any good parts you want to sell off the crappy V6?

 

[bogies87]

It's one thing to want a fast car.. hell that's why they make nitromethane isn't it?
The one thing about a turbo car is taking a 231ci and making 5-6 or even 700 horsepower. If you constantly run on the ragged edge then don't be surprised when the head gasket fails or maybe even some sort of catastrophic failure.
I know some people have pushed there cars to the limit milking every last 1/4 of a horsepower out of them.. I can tell you that a mid to low 11 second (which is becoming increasingly easy, and inexpensive to do these days) car will beat just about any other car on the street.
The point being, an LS or 572 isn't considered "Going Fast With Class".

 

[GetOwnedVette]

It's one thing to want a fast car.. hell that's why they make nitromethane isn't it?
The one thing about a turbo car is taking a 231ci and making 5-6 or even 700 horsepower. If you constantly run on the ragged edge then don't be surprised when the head gasket fails or maybe even some sort of catastrophic failure.
I know some people have pushed there cars to the limit milking every last 1/4 of a horsepower out of them.. I can tell you that a mid to low 11 second (which is becoming increasingly easy, and inexpensive to do these days) car will beat just about any other car on the street.
The point being, an LS or 572 isn't considered "Going Fast With Class".

I rarely lose a street pull in a bone stock T

 

[HelloBozos]

Don't forget to Big Block the all the front Suspenion, or bye bye oil pan...
The shop my cars at just had finished a 572 SS Impala ,Supercharged,tubbed,making 825 hp.
(Miami Dolphine Exe.s car,to give you an idea on cash out lay)
It's doiable,but there will be alot you'll have to Do with it. The crate motors the Easiest part..

Good luck!

 

[novaderrik]

We're not really purists, as we allow for any mod's, including cages. Many of us remember the roots of the tr/gn/gnx and how frustrating it was trying to wring out 1 more hp from what was considered a performance vehicle after the raising of the muscle car era by the insurance, epa and government. The tr's are what rose from the ashes as the savior for us gearheads. My 83 T (back in 83) was considered the quickest new car from 0-60 @ 11.8 seconds! It had a top speed of 85mph! And no chips available in those days. So we kind of grew together w/the v-6. We have or had other fast cars, ie, camaro's, mustangs, etc, but would you put a ford eng. in a camaro or an lsx in a cuda, or a hemi in a mustang and still consider it a camaro, cuda or mustang?

an 83 T was that slow? i think a Citation X11 was a sub 9 second 0-60 car...

 

[SHADOWII]

an 83 T was that slow? i think a Citation X11 was a sub 9 second 0-60 car...

Pittiful, isn't it?!

 

[dr_frankenstein]

having a big block is like a pipi wagging game...... oooh mines bigger, no mines bigger.... but while the "big" guys are comparing there....... cubic inches..... that sneaky little six that does the job.... pops in and nabs the girl.

+1 for the little ol'6.

anybody can buy and drop a big block..... takes a real man to tie his hand around his balls with a 6 and still win.

 

[Mr.Spool]

its the rest of the car that needs attention when making power,thats where the coin goes.making power with a big block or turbo v6 is the easy part.

 

["Turbo-T"]

Pros to putting a 572 in a GN:

It will be somewhat different
It won't be the typical 350 small block that everyone, their brother, mother, cousin, aunt, uncle, sister, etc. all have (or have had) in their car at some point
You'll have enough torque on tap that you will be able to stomp the pedal at the stop light and burn rubber thru all the gears (only a "pro" if you're not racing and you want to impress the neighborhood kids)
The engine bay can readily accept a big block Chevy with minimal mods

Cons to putting a 572 in a GN:

You will be "just another guy with a Chevy motor" in his car
The nose will be heaver/front to rear weight will be thrown off
Gas mileage will suffer, tremendously
Handling will really go to shit
You'll need to spend more money on suspension, brakes and a transmission to keep up with this beast that's pumping out at least 650 ft lbs of torque and weighs about the same
You are desecrating a valuable car
There may be some specialty parts required to make the 572 fit in the GN

LSX engines OTOH usually weigh less and can provide more power, but some mods are required to get one in. It's not as readily acceptable as the 572 or other big block Chevy engines.

The turbo 6 gives you the best of both worlds IMO with good gas mpg to boot...problem is not many know much about the turbo 6, plus some of the parts for them are $$$$$$$$.

However in the end it's your car, do as you feel fit.

 

[INEEDAGN]

To me it's the lack of fuel mileage that kills the idea. I don't care what you do with it, but I guarantee that if you build something with crappy fuel economy, you will hardly drive it. If you never plan to leave your area, maybe you can live with that. Personally I like 20+ mpg highway. If I didn't, I'd start with an entirely different car. The rest of the car is crap, why keep the body and ditch the only good part?