Aquamist ALKY kit?
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dust,you don't seem to understand how things work on a turbo buick by your above posts.if you are interested in learning than due a search,if you are interested in trying to educate turbo buick owners about coolingmist good luck.these cars have been around for a long time as well as the owners.with that being said,we have seen alot of new hot ideas,some work, some don't, and some were not needed in the first place.i don't know how long you have been into cars but nothing is failsafe, nothing made by man.
You confuse the way these cars are setup with imports using larger external wastegates that can be brought down.
One issue is how a car is setup, vs how a car can be setup, vs how cars are typically setup. The typical Buick is setup with a integral single port gate. The boost is adjusted based on spring tension applied to a puck.. the higher the tension, the higher the boost. Simple. additional boost typically is "bled off". But the problems start with boost control using low tension wastegate diaphrams. Thus the use of high tension units which do not allow any lower usage than 18-20 PSI typically. The ECU basically is used to modulate the WG solenoid to control "creep" in 3rd and 4th gear. In the case of knock.. it will drop boost. Unfortunately when the rod is craked down and minimum boost is 25 PSI.. car is set on kill.. it is what it is.
The factory ECU doesnt have the capability aftermarket ecu's have to control and regulate boost.
Its like this, the 300 for the failsafe.. spend it on a wideband and learn to keep your eye on it :redface:
Any failsafe takes time to respond. In the game of going fast time is not on your side. The faster the car the less amount of time to respond, react, decision make. So the best approach "on a fast car" is to take some time before you lay the hammer down and go over things. If you dont wish to check things.. your outcome can be predicted sooner than latter.
On a 14 second car.. you have all the time in the world. Once the car starts going faster.. 12, 11, 10, 9, 8... fugedaboutit. By the time you leave on the two step and brake.. things better be working.
Jerryl
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Like Grumpy stated ................ just get it, design the experiment, and post the track results.then go buy this !!! and your car will NEVER die
Man, I can not belief we are still splitting hair on this descision.
Either get a system that has track data on a TB, or be the “test mule” for another system. ............ and .............. Post the data no matter the kit ........ and if the "new technology kit" is faster than comparable systems, people will listen!
"Which system to get" is just a decision away!
Until then, there is no need to keep running in circles.
My personal belief is that "competition is good", but, the "no data" circle track keyboard racing is killing me!
Aquamist
Just a little fact about Aquamist....
It has been used on World Rally Cup manufacturer's cars from Ford, Subaru, Skoda, SEAT and Hyundai since 1997. They are not a new player on the market.
Their system operates a differently than Coolingmist, Alkycontrol, Devil's Own, etc., in that their pump is not modulated to provide different flow, rather they have a high speed pulse-width modulated valve that meters flow similar in operation to a fuel injector. FJO Racing uses the same design (this is the setup I am using on my turbo charged 240z - I came here because of the extensive knowledge regarding alky injection at the advice of an acquaintance).
Saying that, the Aquamist system is considerably more expensive than the Alkycontrol setup. It is really geared for more modern cars with modern engine management. They do support high horsepower motors, as man Subaru WRX STis that are pushing over 500 fwhp are using their system.
I'll go back to lurking now.
Just a little fact about Aquamist....
It has been used on World Rally Cup manufacturer's cars from Ford, Subaru, Skoda, SEAT and Hyundai since 1997. They are not a new player on the market.
Their system operates a differently than Coolingmist, Alkycontrol, Devil's Own, etc., in that their pump is not modulated to provide different flow, rather they have a high speed pulse-width modulated valve that meters flow similar in operation to a fuel injector. FJO Racing uses the same design (this is the setup I am using on my turbo charged 240z - I came here because of the extensive knowledge regarding alky injection at the advice of an acquaintance).
Saying that, the Aquamist system is considerably more expensive than the Alkycontrol setup. It is really geared for more modern cars with modern engine management. They do support high horsepower motors, as man Subaru WRX STis that are pushing over 500 fwhp are using their system.
I'll go back to lurking now.
coolingmist
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Not exactly correct. Aquamist, Coolingmist and FJO all have High speed valve systems. We (coolingmist) are the only US based company with such a technology. Having said all of this, all 3 valves operate completely differently, the only thing the FJO, Aquamist and Coolingmist valves have in common is that the pump is always at 100% dutycycle, the valve is pulsed. The way the valve is pulsed is completely different with all 3.
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Alky Control has some cars 6-700+hp to :biggrin: 
How is it really geared for "more modern cars with modern engine management?"
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