david buschur
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To duplicate everything on this car would cost close to $30,000 in parts and labor. A lot of it isn't necessary but it I added up all the parts, like I did for a quote today, that is about where it would be. That would dropping the car off and picking it up ready to run.
I know the comments will probably start saying, "Oh my God for $30,000 my car would run 7's." Rest assured it doesn't take long to get to that figure in a Buick, I know because I did it.
An EVO will run 12's for next to nothing, no tire change, boost, exhaust, an air filter and a tune. 11's don't take much more than that, similar to a well thought out and done right Buick. Dropping into the 10's costs a little more but can be done on a stock engine/shortblock with just a small turbo upgrade and injectors on top of what it took you to get to 11's. By that time you've spent about $7500 plus the clutch you chose which can range from $500 to $1600.
There's a guy from the east coast running 10.0's on the stock shortblock and doing it cosistently. Not common though. The stock rods/pistons in the car will make 500 whp and run up to about 8,000 rpm reliably for quite awhile but if either fails and rod breaks it will cost you a new block as it usually put a hole in the block when the rod goes. A new block is $1800, so most guys save that expense once they get the itch to fo fast and just build the shortblock first.
The shortblock in my car we sell for $3,000. It will make 1,000+hp, can be driven anywhere and will go to 10,000+ rpm no problem.
The head is $1600 and has the same description as the block.
There is always a way to shortcut things but we don't believe in that, so if we do the engine it gets a complete new Mitsubishi engine gasket kit, new timing belt, new tensioner, new oil cooler, new front cover, new oil pump gears, oil, antifreeze, filters etc., all that ends up costing another $1100.
Engine management, we use the AEM EMS the most often, there are a few cheaper options but this is what we prefer, you can find it cheaper piecing it together through Ebay or some douche bag company but getting support.............good luck. The complete kit with support from us is $2150.
Double pumper fuel system is $500. Drops in, uses stock fuel lines.
Ignition upgrade is $985, it's a coil on plug CDI ignition, we build it. Cheaper options on that too but good luck on warranty and reliability.
Suspension for all 4 corners is $1100. Good enough to road race, autocross or drag race on, full single adjustable coil overs. Adjustable ride height etc.
The $30,000 price tag also includes all the lightweight components we make, like a rear mustache bar (holds the rear differential in place), rear differential supports, front center member. Light weight 2 piece aluminum hat rotors for the big stock Brembo brakes.
If a guy could do all the labor himself and had a machine shop he could trust the build price would go down pretty substantially. The price I quoted, like I said, is completely built, tuned and ready to drive home to wherever you lived and go race it at any type of event you chose. The car will knock out over 25 mpg, I'd gaurantee that and if it got as high as 32 mpg on the highway I wouldn't fall out of my chair in shock if you called and told me.
The only thing that price wouldn't include is the tires/wheels you wanted to run.
A good friend/customer of mine we built a car for over the winter recently ran his car. It has non of the lightweight stuff on it we build, stock heavy rotors, A/C, power windows, power door locks, an amp. He drive his car every single day it's nice outside. He has gotten 28 mpg driving from the Cleveland area down to Cincinnati which he does pretty often. The week before I ran these times he ran a 10.1 at 143 on straight pump gas. After 2 years on his transmission his 4th gear syncro gave up, so he couldn't get 4th gear. The car had a 1.43 sixty foot, had it not given up, he'd have gone 9's on pump gas too. It has also gone 9.8 at 149 mph on race gas.
I personally, loved my Buick, had a WE4. I also had zero luck with the car. Everytime I thought I'd figured it out, something else would happen. I know I had $60,000 wrapped up in it by the time I was done. Bad luck I guess cause I sure know of a lot of fast ones. I sold it for about a 1/4 of what I had in the entire project, just disgusted.
This car though, has been a freak for me and my luck really couldn't have been much better. It's nice when it goes that way. Literally hundreds of hours have been spent developing it all though.
I know the comments will probably start saying, "Oh my God for $30,000 my car would run 7's." Rest assured it doesn't take long to get to that figure in a Buick, I know because I did it.
An EVO will run 12's for next to nothing, no tire change, boost, exhaust, an air filter and a tune. 11's don't take much more than that, similar to a well thought out and done right Buick. Dropping into the 10's costs a little more but can be done on a stock engine/shortblock with just a small turbo upgrade and injectors on top of what it took you to get to 11's. By that time you've spent about $7500 plus the clutch you chose which can range from $500 to $1600.
There's a guy from the east coast running 10.0's on the stock shortblock and doing it cosistently. Not common though. The stock rods/pistons in the car will make 500 whp and run up to about 8,000 rpm reliably for quite awhile but if either fails and rod breaks it will cost you a new block as it usually put a hole in the block when the rod goes. A new block is $1800, so most guys save that expense once they get the itch to fo fast and just build the shortblock first.
The shortblock in my car we sell for $3,000. It will make 1,000+hp, can be driven anywhere and will go to 10,000+ rpm no problem.
The head is $1600 and has the same description as the block.
There is always a way to shortcut things but we don't believe in that, so if we do the engine it gets a complete new Mitsubishi engine gasket kit, new timing belt, new tensioner, new oil cooler, new front cover, new oil pump gears, oil, antifreeze, filters etc., all that ends up costing another $1100.
Engine management, we use the AEM EMS the most often, there are a few cheaper options but this is what we prefer, you can find it cheaper piecing it together through Ebay or some douche bag company but getting support.............good luck. The complete kit with support from us is $2150.
Double pumper fuel system is $500. Drops in, uses stock fuel lines.
Ignition upgrade is $985, it's a coil on plug CDI ignition, we build it. Cheaper options on that too but good luck on warranty and reliability.
Suspension for all 4 corners is $1100. Good enough to road race, autocross or drag race on, full single adjustable coil overs. Adjustable ride height etc.
The $30,000 price tag also includes all the lightweight components we make, like a rear mustache bar (holds the rear differential in place), rear differential supports, front center member. Light weight 2 piece aluminum hat rotors for the big stock Brembo brakes.
If a guy could do all the labor himself and had a machine shop he could trust the build price would go down pretty substantially. The price I quoted, like I said, is completely built, tuned and ready to drive home to wherever you lived and go race it at any type of event you chose. The car will knock out over 25 mpg, I'd gaurantee that and if it got as high as 32 mpg on the highway I wouldn't fall out of my chair in shock if you called and told me.
The only thing that price wouldn't include is the tires/wheels you wanted to run.
A good friend/customer of mine we built a car for over the winter recently ran his car. It has non of the lightweight stuff on it we build, stock heavy rotors, A/C, power windows, power door locks, an amp. He drive his car every single day it's nice outside. He has gotten 28 mpg driving from the Cleveland area down to Cincinnati which he does pretty often. The week before I ran these times he ran a 10.1 at 143 on straight pump gas. After 2 years on his transmission his 4th gear syncro gave up, so he couldn't get 4th gear. The car had a 1.43 sixty foot, had it not given up, he'd have gone 9's on pump gas too. It has also gone 9.8 at 149 mph on race gas.
I personally, loved my Buick, had a WE4. I also had zero luck with the car. Everytime I thought I'd figured it out, something else would happen. I know I had $60,000 wrapped up in it by the time I was done. Bad luck I guess cause I sure know of a lot of fast ones. I sold it for about a 1/4 of what I had in the entire project, just disgusted.
This car though, has been a freak for me and my luck really couldn't have been much better. It's nice when it goes that way. Literally hundreds of hours have been spent developing it all though.
. If I see an EVO X on the street it gets my attention but how often do you see a nice TR on the street? I can honestly say I have maybe seen (10) on the street over the last (5) years that I would consider impressive. 
That should erase anyones doubt that a 9.1 TSM TR is cheaper than this EVO...
) Kevin the driver of the Evo and I have been friends for 30 years.
