I have a 2009 Nissan Maxima. Last night when I stopped the car the break lights and fog lights wouldnt turn off. This morning the battery was dead. Wifey took the car to the dealership and they charged her for a new battery. I asked the dealership, "It seems like a car electrical issue and not the battery". There response was, "When batteries are near dead they can make the car do weird things like what happened last night". My question is, IS THAT TRUE OR DID HE HUSTLE US?
Did I get Hustled?
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Pronto
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You'll know tomorrow if the battery is dead.
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Yep, it can happen and in fact it did to our 99 Park Ave Ultra when the battery got close to dieing. Seems electrical components designed for 12v go haywire when something less is applied.
Don't sound right to me... If it was a factory battery and you live in a harsh environment it could be time for a new one, assuming the car was bought new in 08. I have 05 cars with factory batteries still though
The lights not shutting off has nothing to do with your battery period though IMO...
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we had a Jag act like if it was possessed (lights on, off, engine not running right, lots of Engine codes, windows not working on and off)
Scanned the computer 1000 times and got a deferent codes just about every time. one day i go to move the car but the battery was dead so instead of charging it it was faster to replaced it with one from another car. And just like that ALL of the mystery problems got solved.
It was do to a bad battery
Scanned the computer 1000 times and got a deferent codes just about every time. one day i go to move the car but the battery was dead so instead of charging it it was faster to replaced it with one from another car. And just like that ALL of the mystery problems got solved.
It was do to a bad battery
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Well, whatever. But I have had it happen to three of my vehicles (two different 99 Park Ave's and a 2004 Rainer V8). A new battery solved the problem(s) each time.
A weak battery will trigger all kinds of weird stuff on the newer cars. I have never seen it where lights will or will not function. In fact that makes no sense.
I would ask for the results of the battery test - but they could just go back and pull a ticket from an old battery.
When getting ready to kill the car, turn the headlights out then shut down. If the lights do something weird, immediately call the dealer. Pull a fuse if you have to to get the lights out.
Most car companies have a required mileage per month for replacement batteries. In your case it should have been free.
Ask them if they sold the car new, if so ask for service history in print. Look to see if there have ever been electrical issues with that car.
I would ask for the results of the battery test - but they could just go back and pull a ticket from an old battery.
When getting ready to kill the car, turn the headlights out then shut down. If the lights do something weird, immediately call the dealer. Pull a fuse if you have to to get the lights out.
Most car companies have a required mileage per month for replacement batteries. In your case it should have been free.
Ask them if they sold the car new, if so ask for service history in print. Look to see if there have ever been electrical issues with that car.
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also..that battery IS pro-rated..it is guarenteed to last a certain amount of time...if it is before that time they take off money for the price of the new one...did they do that for you? should be on your receipt
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Keep that from happening again by getting yourself a battery load tester....either an expensive one or one from Harbor Frieght......it will tell YOU on one test if any cells are bad or if the battery is too discharged to be useable....very simple, and gives you piece of mind.....I've seviced all of my batteries throughout the years with this tester telling me if I need to replace one or just charge it up. Try it, you'll like it. I don't think you were hustled at all, a bad battery can cause all kinds of electrical gremlins to come out and bite you.
And....Happy New Year, the best to you and your family.
Bruce '87 Grand National
And....Happy New Year, the best to you and your family.
Bruce '87 Grand National
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It's prorated and then they jack up the labor to make the difference.
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They probably saw the Eagles Tag on the front 
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I do not deal with foreign cars, but the bumper-to-bumper warranty on the recent vehicles I have purchased includes battery replacement as our 2 year old Mercury just received one free?
A decent parts store battery will have a 2 or 3 year free replacement guarantee.
What warranty does the dealership replacement battery have?
My opinion, you were hustled?
How can they charge you if a car is that new and under warranty?
How many miles on the car?
From the link:
http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/nissan/pdf/techpubs/2009/2009_N_WIB.pdf
page 43
WHAT IS COVERED?
Nissan* warrants your Genuine Nissan Replacement Battery
as described below except as stated under "What
is not covered?"
This warranty covers defects in materials and workmanship.
HOW LONG IS THE WARRANTY AND WHAT WILL
NISSAN DO
Nissan will replace your battery without charge if it becomes
unserviceable within the first 24 months of service.
If the battery becomes unserviceable after 24 months of
use, Nissan will provide a replacement battery at a reduced
price, charging only for the portion of the life of the battery
actually used. This is called a "pro-rata adjustment". Nissan
will pay for all labor charges in replacing the battery if it was
originally installed by an authorized Nissan dealer.
This warranty and the "pro-rata adjustment" end 84 months
after the date of the battery's purchase or installation,
whichever is earlier.
WHAT IS NOT COVERED?
This warranty does not cover:
1. Damage or failure resulting from:
• Accident, theft, fire or freezing.
• Misuse of the battery or vehicle in which it is
installed, including the use in applications for
which the battery was not designed. Proper use
is described in the vehicles Owner's Manual.
• Improper installation or battery charging.
• Vehicle electrical malfunctions not covered by your
New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
• Modification or improper repair of the vehicle or a
part of the vehicle.
• Use of parts not equivalent in quality or design to
parts supplied by Nissan.
• Environmental conditions, including, but not
limited to flood, and salt spray or salt water.
2. Normal maintenance service and recharging of
discharged batteries.
3. Batteries in service more than 84 months.
4. Salvage Title. This warranty does not cover damage,
failure, or corrosion to any Genuine Nissan battery
installed in the vehicle, if the vehicle is issued a "salvage
" or similar title under any state's law, and this warranty
is rendered void for any battery installed in a vehicle
prior to the vehicle being issued a "salvage" or similar
title unless state law expressly states otherwise. (This
exclusion does not extend to a new Genuine Nissan
battery installed in the vehicle after the issuance of a
"salvage" or similar title).
WHAT YOU MUST DO
In order to obtain warranty service, you must deliver the warranted
battery or the vehicle in which the battery is installed
to an authorized Nissan dealer in the U.S. or Canada at your
expense, with proof of purchase (parts invoice or service
repair order from an authorized Nissan dealer). The names
and addresses of authorized Nissan dealers are listed in
telephone directories or Nissan Cars, Hybrid, Trucks, Crossovers, SUVs | Year-End Sales Event | Nissan USA
If the "pro-rata adjustment" applies, you must pay for the
portion of the 84 month warrantable life that you actually
used. The amount you pay is computed in two steps.
First, the customer pay percentage is determined from
the chart shown below based upon the months of actual
battery service.
Months Customer Pay
In Service Percentage
0-24 0%
25-32 25%
33-50 50%
51-84 75%
Second, the current suggested retail price of the new battery
is multiplied by the customer pay percentage. For example,
should the battery fail after 40 months of service you would
pay 50% of the suggested retail price of the new battery.
You must also pay for the labor charge to remove and
replace the battery if it was not originally installed in your
vehicle by an authorized Nissan Dealer.
==================================================
Looks like you got to go back there and get your money back because you know they billed the factory too. Double dipping. Never go back there.
How many miles on the car?
From the link:
http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/nissan/pdf/techpubs/2009/2009_N_WIB.pdf
page 43
WHAT IS COVERED?
Nissan* warrants your Genuine Nissan Replacement Battery
as described below except as stated under "What
is not covered?"
This warranty covers defects in materials and workmanship.
HOW LONG IS THE WARRANTY AND WHAT WILL
NISSAN DO
Nissan will replace your battery without charge if it becomes
unserviceable within the first 24 months of service.
If the battery becomes unserviceable after 24 months of
use, Nissan will provide a replacement battery at a reduced
price, charging only for the portion of the life of the battery
actually used. This is called a "pro-rata adjustment". Nissan
will pay for all labor charges in replacing the battery if it was
originally installed by an authorized Nissan dealer.
This warranty and the "pro-rata adjustment" end 84 months
after the date of the battery's purchase or installation,
whichever is earlier.
WHAT IS NOT COVERED?
This warranty does not cover:
1. Damage or failure resulting from:
• Accident, theft, fire or freezing.
• Misuse of the battery or vehicle in which it is
installed, including the use in applications for
which the battery was not designed. Proper use
is described in the vehicles Owner's Manual.
• Improper installation or battery charging.
• Vehicle electrical malfunctions not covered by your
New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
• Modification or improper repair of the vehicle or a
part of the vehicle.
• Use of parts not equivalent in quality or design to
parts supplied by Nissan.
• Environmental conditions, including, but not
limited to flood, and salt spray or salt water.
2. Normal maintenance service and recharging of
discharged batteries.
3. Batteries in service more than 84 months.
4. Salvage Title. This warranty does not cover damage,
failure, or corrosion to any Genuine Nissan battery
installed in the vehicle, if the vehicle is issued a "salvage
" or similar title under any state's law, and this warranty
is rendered void for any battery installed in a vehicle
prior to the vehicle being issued a "salvage" or similar
title unless state law expressly states otherwise. (This
exclusion does not extend to a new Genuine Nissan
battery installed in the vehicle after the issuance of a
"salvage" or similar title).
WHAT YOU MUST DO
In order to obtain warranty service, you must deliver the warranted
battery or the vehicle in which the battery is installed
to an authorized Nissan dealer in the U.S. or Canada at your
expense, with proof of purchase (parts invoice or service
repair order from an authorized Nissan dealer). The names
and addresses of authorized Nissan dealers are listed in
telephone directories or Nissan Cars, Hybrid, Trucks, Crossovers, SUVs | Year-End Sales Event | Nissan USA
If the "pro-rata adjustment" applies, you must pay for the
portion of the 84 month warrantable life that you actually
used. The amount you pay is computed in two steps.
First, the customer pay percentage is determined from
the chart shown below based upon the months of actual
battery service.
Months Customer Pay
In Service Percentage
0-24 0%
25-32 25%
33-50 50%
51-84 75%
Second, the current suggested retail price of the new battery
is multiplied by the customer pay percentage. For example,
should the battery fail after 40 months of service you would
pay 50% of the suggested retail price of the new battery.
You must also pay for the labor charge to remove and
replace the battery if it was not originally installed in your
vehicle by an authorized Nissan Dealer.
==================================================
Looks like you got to go back there and get your money back because you know they billed the factory too. Double dipping. Never go back there.
we had a Jag act like if it was possessed (lights on, off, engine not running right, lots of Engine codes, windows not working on and off)
Scanned the computer 1000 times and got a deferent codes just about every time. one day i go to move the car but the battery was dead so instead of charging it it was faster to replaced it with one from another car. And just like that ALL of the mystery problems got solved.
It was do to a bad battery
A jag is known to be the biggest POS electrical nightmares ever made... I refuse to buy or trade for one to this day. Blew several nice sales because I refused to trade...
I for the life of me can't see how a dying battery made is lights STAY ON
Guys I look at thousands of vehicles per year and have not come across this yet... Maybe I learned something newSimilar threads
