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dont like wat some of those members are saying about the gn's
I thought my zr1 was fast till I drove the 06. I own one but I not a Corvette person. Your right on them hammering the chit out of unmodded or even modded gn's. If you do get beat at least your not the one who spent 75,000 on your car:biggrin: Its really comparing apples and oranges though.Apples to oranges for sure but even in a quarter mile a new Z06 stock will hammer 99% or more of the TR's you find driving around on the street. You would need to have a solid very low 11sec strip TR to run with a late stock Z06 for typical street encounters from a low roll. Not only that you would need to have your TR in the same tune and trim as at the strip. Saying you ran 10's or whatever at the strip with a 1.50 60' with slicks or DR's will not do you any good if you cant hook it on the street. The mph the Z06 posts stock is good for nearly mid 10's in a drag car. Most that encounter one of those on a highway wont now what hit them. It will be very humbling to say the least.X2 . I drove an 06 that came through the auction and that car sh!ts and gits and the newer ones are faster?
You may believe that but ive seen several Z06 cars run 11.80 or quicker multiple passes with everything stock. A drag radial and a little aggressive shifting would net 11.0 with little effort. Ive seen a few nearly stock appearing TR's run 10's in street trim with easy foot brake launches. You never know what your going to get but one thing you can be sure of with a late Z06 is that it has the power to weight ratio to trap at least 125mph even if its stock. This is usually more than enough to trump and 12 sec ride een with terrible traction. Ive seen a lot of early Mopars running 11's on hard as a rock street radials too. That can be very humbling when you have DR's on a car that runs low 12's at the strip and you get spanked by a car with chit tires on it. From my experiences trying to run faster than 11.50 without ballast and a good launch control on hard street radials can be an incredible challenge. Even with low 10 sec power its not easily done and is a lot more dangerous than it may seem.For typical street encounters w/ a ZO6 I believe (IMO) if one has a 12.00 second TR...actually 12.50 or better.. from a dead-stop "true" race, the TR will win at least 50% of the time or more!.....Try launching the ZO6, most people who drive them aint Motor Trend drivers, I've owned alot of fast cars and have gotten beat and also handed an ass-whooping to guy's who had cars that i KNOW made more power. I spank the chit out of almost anyone that pulls up to my 69' Bee and that is at best..a low 12 second car however it is a well setup Automatic and i know how to launch it. I do agree a totally stock TR is no match but how many of them are running around looking to have fun
As for the highway races, that's not my thing so no rebuttal there and I would imagine the Z, like the Viper would dominate that average 12.00 TR but let's face it....that ain't racing! anyone can mash the gas at 65mph...takes no skill other than a strong ankle
How many ZO6's do we see at the track EVER pulling a 10 second pass let alone a 9 second pass? How many? I have yet to see even ONE! The race is over in 2-3 seconds from a highway roll so running away from a well built TR ain't happening. Ur car, my car or anything with a similar build.
An older one but still an animal. ) And Bison, Please know I am not trying to rebut you, your knowledge and advice are invaluable and I have complete respect for you..just having some fun and.....screw them vettes :biggrin:
How are you defining out MPH'ing? Top speed? Top speed over a long distance? Of course I agree with the fact that most all will mph better over a distance.Thats why i said 99%. Some fall into the 1% that have the power out mph a Z06. The chances of a Z06 coming up against one of the 1% in the real world is quite slim. The other 99% will get walked all over from speeds of 60mph or more. Imagine what would happen to an unsuspecting dope who tried to get a piece of this car:YouTube - World Record C5 Corvette IRS Run 8.54@163.95-Sold
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Like i said. A 10 sec pass at the drag strip doesnt mean chit when comparing the 2 cars. These are street cars were comparing here i hope. The Z06 with a lousy driver and bone stock will knock off 11.80's@125+mph all day long on the street with little effort. Yes the Z06 will out mph more than 99% of the TR's you see on the street and by a large margin. Owners of Z06 cars dont typically care what their car runs in the quarter. Therefore you wont see many of them knocking off spectacular times in the quarter not to mention there are a lot less of them heavily modified than TR's and they are about a 20 year newer car and worth a lot more than a TR so you just arent going to see many of them around with a bunch of modification. They will run a lot closer to their drag strip time on the street than a 10 sec TR will that is use to leaving hard at the strip with DR's or drag slicks. Apparently a lot of guys think their 10 sec TR's are capable of similar times on the street. They surely are not in almost all instances. If you want to know take every 10 sec TR you can find with a the 60' time posted and if its faster than 1.9 add .2 to the quarter e.t. for every tenth faster in 60' time to get a comparison of what you going to expect on the street. 10.70 with a 1.50 becomes 11.50. Now take off some more for less aggressive "street" (or conservative as some say
) or fat ass wife or gf in the passenger seat, heavy street rims and tires on the car, etc. 11.50 becomes high 11. You will see just how hard it is to use the power effectively on the street soon. Throw some DR's on a Z06 and a 100 shot ($900 worth of mods) and you will have a really hard time on the street with it even with a TR that has run high 9's at the strip. Traction on the street is so much different than at the strip trying to compare a cars street potential based off of drag strip e.t. on a hard launching car is not accurate at all.
A ZO6 with a 100 shot will put down about 550 to the wheels. That's an every day modified TR these days. 99% aint runnen away from a TR with a 100 shot. DR's or not.Like i said. A 10 sec pass at the drag strip doesnt mean chit when comparing the 2 cars. These are street cars were comparing here i hope. The Z06 with a lousy driver and bone stock will knock off 11.80's@125+mph all day long on the street with little effort. Yes the Z06 will out mph more than 99% of the TR's you see on the street and by a large margin. Owners of Z06 cars dont typically care what their car runs in the quarter. Therefore you wont see many of them knocking off spectacular times in the quarter not to mention there are a lot less of them heavily modified than TR's and they are about a 20 year newer car and worth a lot more than a TR so you just arent going to see many of them around with a bunch of modification. They will run a lot closer to their drag strip time on the street than a 10 sec TR will that is use to leaving hard at the strip with DR's or drag slicks. Apparently a lot of guys think their 10 sec TR's are capable of similar times on the street. They surely are not in almost all instances. If you want to know take every 10 sec TR you can find with a the 60' time posted and if its faster than 1.9 add .2 to the quarter e.t. for every tenth faster in 60' time to get a comparison of what you going to expect on the street. 10.70 with a 1.50 becomes 11.50. Now take off some more for less aggressive "street" (or conservative as some say
