jasjamz
THS Racer
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- Sep 30, 2004
Run your car at the track and let us all know what it runs!
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Run your car at the track and let us all know what it runs!
A friend of mine just bought a new SS Camaro with a six speed and it is the 426 hp car. He called me tonight and wants me to bring on my GN and he said he knew the little 6 would not stand a chance! I told him I would catch up with him maybe this weekend. What do you guys think? Has anyone drove one of these new camaros and are the fast enough to take a GN, his car is right out of the box, no mods. [ I am running race gas, and have added a few more things to my car that are not in my signature] thanks
He called me tonight and wants me to bring on my GN and he said he knew the little 6 would not stand a chance!
Yea, the torque management system in the newer LS powered vehicles sucks a$$. Unless something is different on the Camaro, about the only way to get rid of it is a tune.I don't know, but I'd be willing to bet that the 426 hp is severely neutered via torque control. I drove a new GTO a couple years ago, and when you step on the gas, you don't get that snappy V8 throttle response like you'd expect. The tires didn't even spin, either. A friend of mine that bought a new Charger a couple years ago complained about the same thing in his car.
I think that button you're referring to is the "Traction Control". The differences in TC & TM are summed up well by fergyflyer on the GTO Forums:There is a nice little button on the center console of the GTOs that says TC. Push that button and no more torque control. I'm sure the camaro is the same in that you can turn off the TC. Then all you need is decent tires and know how to launch. My GTO has torque across the band, but the car really starts to move above 4500 rpm.
fergyflyer said:Torque management and traction control are 2 different but related things. The traction control reduces power when the computer, through the ABS sensors, detects slipage of the drive tires. Traction control can also apply the brakes if the reduction in power doesn't work.
Torque management only comes into play when you have extreme movements of the throttle. It's design is to keep power application smooth to avoid having a shock to the driveline that might damage it. If you are at full throttle and abruptly lift it actually slows the throttle closing by a small amount to reduce the harsh effect on the driveline, so it also works in the opposite direction.
I can speak from personal experience on the TrailBlazer SS. I had the AWD version. Stab it off the line and it would hit hard, then fall on its face, then pick up and go again. Ridiculous performance kill by the TM. That's one area the Jeep SRT8 is better. Less TM. Stab the throttle and the response is instant and pulls hard.My bad, I think TM is only an issue with automatics.