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K just got off phone and your looking at around 90 bucks for 2 gallons...60 for the base and 30 for the activator

and thats about the same for waterborne and alkyd

so 3000 sq ft / 400 sq ft cover comes out to around 7.5 gallons of base and equal amount of activator so about $1500

I got friend who used the homedepot kit which was like 50 bucks for both gallons and its still holding up after 4 yrs..but once again its all in the prep

not sure how much tile one could buy with 1500 bucks but i know you could get the rjc mega cooler with money left over...LOL
 
not a bad product, but price for 2 gallons plus activator and plastimer comes out to 229.00 plus 36#s of weight in shipping.

Simple to just cruise in to a pittsburb or sherwin store and walk out with product in hand
 
I was a rep for SW for 15 years. Screw em!!!!! Thank God I quit there .

Just put Insul-X Aqua Tile down on mine today. Nice product, looks beautiful, we'll see how it holds up to MY abuse!

BTW - Someone thinks they are going to use a 3500 psi washer to just strip up old epoxy? Good luck with that. Shot blast the thing!
 
I was a rep for SW for 15 years. Screw em!!!!! Thank God I quit there .

Just put Insul-X Aqua Tile down on mine today. Nice product, looks beautiful, we'll see how it holds up to MY abuse!

BTW - Someone thinks they are going to use a 3500 psi washer to just strip up old epoxy? Good luck with that. Shot blast the thing!

If it had failed and peeled in spots then one can assume all the prep was bad and never etched and it prolly would come up in sheets once you got some pressure under the peels. I doubt a DIY job with bad prep used a real quality product with 100% epox solids... hard to say without going and looking at it but then again i could use a trip to Hawaii

Yeah i hate SW as well, bunch of sheisters and every time they buy someone out they turn what was once a good product into poop but theres one on every corner...cover the earth in $hit
 
Costco is having a sale. These are very similar to Racedeck... made by the same company. Limited colors, though.


Phew!! :eek: Let's see now. Mine: 600+ sqft. Each kit covers 12 sqft. That means 50 kits minimum. $5,000. :eek: :eek:
 
If it had failed and peeled in spots then one can assume all the prep was bad and never etched and it prolly would come up in sheets once you got some pressure under the peels. I doubt a DIY job with bad prep used a real quality product with 100% epox solids... hard to say without going and looking at it but then again i could use a trip to Hawaii

Yeah i hate SW as well, bunch of sheisters and every time they buy someone out they turn what was once a good product into poop but theres one on every corner...cover the earth in $hit


It would have to be a pretty universally bad prep job. More than likely it was just substandard in spots. Anyway.....

I was with one of those good companies that got bought out, Duron Paints. After just a couple years dealing with SW's crap after the buyout, I had enough, left and went to their competition. I like having them as my competitor rather than my backer. So easy to sell AGAINST!:biggrin:
 
It would have to be a pretty universally bad prep job. More than likely it was just substandard in spots. Anyway.....

I was with one of those good companies that got bought out, Duron Paints. After just a couple years dealing with SW's crap after the buyout, I had enough, left and went to their competition. I like having them as my competitor rather than my backer. So easy to sell AGAINST!:biggrin:


Wow yeah I heard they bought out Duron which is huge in Florida, is it Colorwheel? thats big down there as well...
I aint never seen Semi gloss touch up like Duron had, I know once I got wind of buyout, I just said another fine product down the tubes, reformulated and mixed in 10,000 gal vats with no quality control

But as far as the prep on the guys garage, easy guess with the peeling prolly from the high traffic areas and that kinda clues me in that the guy didnt etch it, and if he didnt etch it then its just laying on there, hanging by a thread..lol but like we talked about, and really a powerwasher with Oscilating head might be his only option of rental to do it himself, me? yeah i agree 100% id blast it off and be done. or he can try and scrape the loose scale first and see how far it goes then acess (sp?)the situation from there, and even then, without knowing how many mills are on the floor he might have to call out the big guns to do it right and remove it all or it will just end up being a new crappy paint job over and old crappy paint job:(
 
Yeah, I'm with ColorWheel now. We sell Insul-x and Dupont's industrial lines. The Aqua Tile is a good product for going over old systems that are adhering well, if he's got just spot failures it might be a decent solution for him. I was going over the acrylic concrete stain the builder put down. It was adhering well, just wearing out. An acrylic epoxt like Aqua-Tile won't lift existing coatings like a solvent borne epoxy. My floor shines like glass right now. Better watch out that I don't fall on my ass, LOL! I didn't want the skid-Tex added to it, makes it hard to keep the floor clean. But right now I could do the Risky Business sock-feet slide like a mo-fo. ;)

Duron was a terrific company and had some damned fine products. Too bad things went down like that. IF SW, (aka The Big Drip) hadn't bought them out, I'd still be there. I walked away from a total time of 17 years service when I left, that should tell you something.
 
Phew!! :eek: Let's see now. Mine: 600+ sqft. Each kit covers 12 sqft. That means 50 kits minimum. $5,000. :eek: :eek:

The tiles are 1 sq ft each so one kit covers 48 sq ft. You'd be looking at around $1,300... which is a great price for tile.

Sometimes it is on sale for $89 per kit which is a screaming deal.
 
But as far as the prep on the guys garage, easy guess with the peeling prolly from the high traffic areas and that kinda clues me in that the guy didnt etch it, and if he didnt etch it then its just laying on there, hanging by a thread..lol but like we talked about, and really a powerwasher with Oscilating head might be his only option of rental to do it himself, me? yeah i agree 100% id blast it off and be done. or he can try and scrape the loose scale first and see how far it goes then acess (sp?)the situation from there, and even then, without knowing how many mills are on the floor he might have to call out the big guns to do it right and remove it all or it will just end up being a new crappy paint job over and old crappy paint job:(

An alternative to shot blasting would be to rent a floor sander and go at it with about 60 grit. It would probably become obvious when it was ready for the new stuff.

Regardless of the method, putting new epoxy over failed epoxy is A LOT of work.
 
Floor sanders was my second option as well. Blast can't be beat, but harder to aquire.
 
K just got off phone and your looking at around 90 bucks for 2 gallons...60 for the base and 30 for the activator

and thats about the same for waterborne and alkyd

so 3000 sq ft / 400 sq ft cover comes out to around 7.5 gallons of base and equal amount of activator so about $1500

I got friend who used the homedepot kit which was like 50 bucks for both gallons and its still holding up after 4 yrs..but once again its all in the prep

not sure how much tile one could buy with 1500 bucks but i know you could get the rjc mega cooler with money left over...LOL

Thanks for the info.

I've come close to doing it a couple of times, but then I end up thinking to myself, "$1,500 toward something that I'll walk all over, or $1,500 toward a project". Maybe I'll buck up and get it done this time....:biggrin:
 
or like i did and just toss a bunch of remntes down..hell i got berber, thick pile, commercial grade...lol kidding on the thick pile

after they outlived themselves i just roll em up and toss em
but where i live Hee Haw is top slot in primetime:biggrin:

sinceerlee
Junior Samples BR109
 
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