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interesting reading. I wish I had more time to play on the internet these days.
Brad... c'mon, thats no way to make friends. :tongue: 54 turbobuicks, and the only other ha that shows up and you call his car "junk"? :redface: You've got to expect him to get his feathers ruffled a little. :biggrin: I remember back in high school, man, if somebody knocks somebody elses hot-rod, theres gonna be a rumble down at the abanded car wash after school. Nowadays though, I'm such a ding-dong and cut-up, I actually encourage people to knock my car.
There are hot airs on ebay all the time, and theres quite a few for sale on various online used car sites all the time. I think that almost half of the 84/5 hotairs that where made are still out there in one mostly complete shape or another. That estimate is based on years of scientific research. :tongue: Most seem to be pretty well hit with cancer, and (or) drive train is pretty tired or abused (or missing). Unless you have a pristine mint condition hotair (like that one on ebay), I don't see any reason to buy one for the investment, but, stranger things have happened. Better wait another 20 years before it'll pay off, probably.
As my tiny little brain learns more and more about my 84 hot air gn, and how to improve it and make it run better/faster with its stock configuration non I'cd form... I'm starting to come to the conclusion that hot-airs (given proper mods and tuning) are actually not that slow. And its been proven time and again, long before I even owned one. A second slower than Ic'd car? sure, but stock I'cd cars are considered slow by todays standards. I'm very happy with the performance increases I get with each mod I do as I progress. (and keep in mind I have a 87 and 86 turbobuick too)
Due to low production #'s, there just never was enough interest for the research, time, and money to be put into a aftermarket performance market for these cars like there was for the 86/7 years, and sadly, can't say I blame them since there was way more I'cd cars built, and ,(as I've seen jerryl mention before) they are more forgiving with bolt on upgrades and a crappy tune. I have already proved that statement on my own. I also feel that the availability for performance upgrades for these cars has probably already peeked.
I'd like to send a big shout out to postonbuick for still carrying headers and bolt on turbo for us. More of my thoughts: I feel we have 3 big big things going for us these days that we didn't have 10 or so years ago. 1. alky injection 2. custom chips (like turbotweak) and 3. websites like this one and gnttype.org so we can all get on here and converse.
time for me to brag. :tongue: My 84 gn has almost every option except digital dash and climate control, nor does it have the engine block heater option. and all are in good working order. Including power seats, trunk release, and factory astroroof, and factory alarm, concert sound, twilight sentenal lights, map lights, blah blah blah. :tongue:
I haven't been subject to any hotair bashing in local buick club, but, they are a super bunch of guys. For these guys that like to bash hotairs online, My best guess for that would be: 1. Its just in their personality to argue and start crap, and 2. (and probably the biggest reason),.... waayyy to much time on their hands. (get a life :tongue: )
In all good fun though, I confess that friends and family have given me a pretty hard time for putting a set of "god-awful ugly" 84/5 stocker t type wheels on my daily driver 86 t type. :tongue: The truth is, I really really think they give a nice "driver" look to a stock looking t type. I'll post a pic, would anybody disagree?