Wow again, and good morning.......... Looks like things are really picking up here. I'm not sure where to begin, but I'll start with, I didn't want anything to do with this thread or for that matter with anything related to what I consider a personal attack. Of course that is my opinion and as we all know, some of us are entitled to that, and some aren't. There are 2 kinds of critique that I know of, constructive and destructive. This one appears to fall into the later. I say that because, all of this is pretty much a surprise to me..... other than Ted, informing me of his high intake temps after BG, I have never heard of a problem.
I attempted to help Ted determine why, but unfortunately Ted chose not to work with me, instead, it would appear he chose to work with others, from a different perspective and approach. That's fine for him, his choice. Now if we were to approach this in a constructive way, I would have wanted to check a few things first, such as where was his air induction to the turbo located, another question I had for Ted was related to any obstruction to the core he might have had, such as the lower grill plate. That was basically all I had to go with as Ted's combo at the time consisted of the turbo, IC, and headers off of my car, that I had been running for a year.
By the way Otto, I didn't run "A" 8 second pass, I ran 8 second passes at every track I went to for the rest of the season. I also didn't blow any head gaskets, nor did I have signs of detonation when my motor was freshened up. In fact, my bearings looked so good, Bobby said he could have used them over again. Those are facts, not an opinion. I also offered both Ted and Otto a new larger IC, at a fair price to upgrade, but unfortunately they chose not to upgrade. I have always tried to offer the best available product to my customers, not to mention, if I can improve upon something, there is no reason I would not.
I first built my existing IC when I did, because there were no others out there after TDQ left the community, or maybe I should say was not very reliable to supply the demand at the time. I researched IC's and came up with what we have been using based on what was available at the time and what was recommended to handle most of the current HP applications. Laz and Roy were one of the first customers to try it and the results they had were very good, I also installed one in place of my V1 and also had improved performance, all seemed well to me. Since then, many of the TSM racers have also installed our IC with improved results, not to mention many other stage 2 customers. Now here we are 3 years later, more HP is being made by some and obviously, based on current temps, an upgrade is needed by some. No problem, lets talk about it in a constructive way and lets work it out.
Is it really neccesary to act as if I am responsible because Otto broke a crank or Russ wiped out a thrust bearing, or even Ted was only able to run 4 tenths slower than I did with the same, exact parts off of my car with 4 more lbs of boost!!! It would appear to me, you guys need to take a step back and look in other areas or maybe get off your high horses of being the "elite" of the Buick community. We are all trying to go fast, it's our only claim to fame, but at what expense are we accomplishing it? When things don't go well, stop pointing the finger at me, I didn't tune your car, or choose your parts and combo, you did......... It's funny how we thump our chests when we do well, proclaiming how great a tuner we are, but when it doesn't go well, we are so quick to find someone else to blame. When I supplied current temp numbers from both my car and a customers car, you claim BS, now that was predictable since obviously you all didn't want to see results that didn't quite support your "opinion" based on your vast knowledge and experience. From these posts, I would have to think you are all engineers and designers that are capable of going out and building an IC that will accomplish the goals you have set for yourself and others. I am not an engineer, I depend on others with more expertise to guide me, so far, that has worked well enough for me to run my desired numbers.
In the last year, can you tell me who has run 9's in TSM? I know of a few that run my IC, one is Phil M. the other is Dave England, I believe they both run our IC. In fact, other than Dave Bamford, the 2 fastest TSM runs were accomplished by Dave E and Phil M, several others have run their best times since installing our IC, Steve Sullivan included. Again, obviously an improvement over anything else they had available to them. At BG, Morrocco, BPG, we have had our IC installed on several of the top 5 or so qualifiers. At BG and BPG, I qualified #3 and #2 respectively, again, with my IC. Many others have run their fastest times as well, including Otto. Does this mean my IC is the best, heck no, only that it was available and worked well enough to help in achieving goals.
Air inlet temps are not solely the responsibility of the IC, our engine and turbo size, boost levels, air inlet temp to the turbo, air outlet temp from the turbo as well as other factors. The ability to move air through our heads based on port size and flow, cam choice, cubic inch, cyl. compression ratio and more will affect how much pressure will be built up inside the cylinders, more pressure leads to higher air temps. If I need 26 lbs of boost to run 8.90, and someone else needs 31 lbs of boost to run 9.29, what does that mean? Especially if we have pretty much the same IC, turbo and headers....if the cylinders are unable to get the air in and get the air out, wouldn't the flow of both air and exhaust slow down? I think so, sounds logical, that is if we are truly trying to figure out the problem...... if thats the case, if we slow down the air flow and increase the air pressure, wouldn't the temperature of the air then increase? I am not saying my IC is the best that could be used, but it has been the best that has been available, if there is now a need for something better, I am working on it. Performance levels have increased across the board, better turbos, heads, cams, engine management, suspensions, torque convertors,the list is endless........ as we go faster, all of these parts need to be upgraded, without constructive criticism directly to those of us trying to support the Buick commuinuty, how can we help.....
This thread, quickly turned into something other than that. OC, if you think my IC has anything to do with your poor performance, at times, and not your good runs of the last couple years, I believe you are wrong, you had the same results prior to installing my IC. If I am not mistaken, I have attended almost every Buick event from Florida to Ohio the last 5 years and have performed as well as most with my IC the last 3 years. What TSO type car has run consistent low 9's or high 8's over this period? To imply engine failures, bearing wear, head gaskets are due to the IC used is ridiculous, I would tend to say, tune-up and other factors such as failed charging systems, fuel pumps, overboosting and other factors are the cause, but then if we talk about that....... we couldn't very well blame the IC..... could we. If I run 38lbs of boost and my air inlet temps are 190*, is it really the IC's fault?
To sum this up, anyone running my IC that thinks they would like something better than their existing piece, feel free to call me anytime, I am always available and will honestly do everything within my power to accomplish that. That includes you OC, you don't need to sell your snowmobiles or horses to step things up, and it won't cost you an "arm and a leg" either.
