STOCK turbo racing class, Any Interest??

[Quiky One]

I wonder what we did with these cars 20 years ago before all these big injectors came along?? Stock injectors & Parts can run a little faster than you might think.

Parts lose their effectiveness after so long. Do you think a 20 year old 28 lb. injector still flows 28 lbs. without a good cleaning? By the time you pay to get them cleaned, you could buy half a set of aftermarket ones. Same thing with the fuel pump.

Of course this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to one.

Jason

 

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

The stock fuel pump has always been the real limitation on a stock car but the stock injectors perform quite well with a little psi increase.

 

[BillyRValentine]

That sounds like the rules to TSS, only with a smaller turbo and factory rims. My brother could put a 60 turbo and some stock wheels on his TSS car and own this class.

This is why I am asking for any and all input from those interested. Many minds are always better than one.

Jim C. - GSCA Race Director

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

I vote for slicks, nuttin better than getting consistant sixty foot times at the track.
28x9 work pretty good on a 7 or 8 inch rim
Can the stock rims be widened?
Are the western wheels allowed since they appear very close to the stock T wheel?
Stock electric fan only, or can we run the dual fans that most venders are selling?
Thanks
BW

Could you answer those for me please?????
BW

 

[Quiky One]

This is why I am asking for any and all input from those interested. Many minds are always better than one.

Jim C. - GSCA Race Director

Will this class only be run at BG? Any chance for the BPG nats?

I still am not clear on the 3" DP.

Thanks Jason

 

[BillyRValentine]

Will this class only be run at BG? Any chance for the BPG nats?

I still am not clear on the 3" DP.

Thanks Jason

The only part that I have input on is BG, sorry. As for the downpipe it looks as if the class will allow up to a 3-in DP. Hope this helps.

Jim C. - GSCA Race Director

 

[Quiky One]

Thanks.

Jason

 

[RKHiPerformance]

Alky is Not Stock Appearing...

How about a spec fuel limitation? It could be 100 unleaded or even kitten-wizz 93 octane pump gas.
This might keep the players from getting tangled up in roll bar requirements and maintain street-car ET's.

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

How about a spec fuel limitation? It could be 100 unleaded or even kitten-wizz 93 octane pump gas.
This might keep the players from getting tangled up in roll bar requirements and maintain street-car ET's.

Id have to say that there is a handful of stock turbo cars in the 11.49 range with a dutt neck stock non stretched intercooler. Matter of fact, i can only think of 2 right now. Rollbars are required at 11.49 when the track is not rented ( been that way at many types of events :wink

I was hoping to take this class to a stock appearing, stock turbo, with slicks OR Drag radial class trying to beat Ed Brewers 11.3 setup. I doubt anyone will come close to it, but you never know. I bet most cars would be in the 12.0 range if its hot outside. Honest answer

Racegas and alky will allow all cars to go faster, and inducing a fuel octane limit would only put more strain on the tech person making sure that everyone is following the class rules per the limited octane.

I do have a valid question for everyone posting on this thread and the slicks and tires thread.

How many of you are truely are going to race in this class when its setup?

I see alot of posting and know some of the guys will definitely be racing in it, but just need to know truthfully if you are commited to race.

I spoke with Jim Carswell the other day on the phone about this class and getting it setup. I hope its OK with everyone, but looks like i will be in charge of making sure that everyone meets the class specifications at the nationals... IE Bosshole :wink:

My only concern is that in the tire poll, many non participants may be making decisions in this class and not even make it to the event.

I have no issue allowing up to a 28x10.5 ( NON W ) tire as long as there is no frame notch and i am OK with a lil fender roll to make it fit.

If someone wants to run a 275/50 or even possibly a 295/ as long as the requirements are met, then that would be fine to me...

Nothing is set in stone, and Jim C and i need to hash out all the ins and outs of what is allowed.. Mostly stock is the KEY to this class.
Hemco stock appearing is OK, but not the race version IMO

I do know that the western wheels and stock stretched wheels will be the next line of interest.
In my opinion, any t-type wheel including the western wheels (look below at picture) GN wheel, and TTA wheel would be avail, also the stretched stock wheels that are avail from Gbody and or local buddy, and the GNX wheels, should be able to swap around between all cars.
So a 86 or 87 turbo regal could run GTA wheels if they like, or a GN could run t-type wheels, vise versa.

Would everyone racing in the class be against running these wheels, they are american racing / western / dukes of hazard wheels 15x8.5's and pretty much look identical to the stock wheel? I previously had 28x10.5s and only required a lil trim work on my car, but now have sold the tires.
BW
BW

 

[NCTURBOS]

Bryan,

Good luck with the RRA position, been there myself.

I would like to see the class be a drag radial only class. I have not looked at the other threads you speak of with the polls, yet!!

As far as running the class... I'm keeping my fingers crossed and I don't want to jinx it, but.... If the car I'm currently in the process of buying is up to the task I will be running this class next year @ B.G.

The car may be of some interest to you actually and will definitely raise some eyebrows at the Nats. :wink:



K.

 

[SGRIM]

Weight? Headers? & most importantly rear end

 

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

I am 110% IN. Let's do this!!

 

[SGRIM]

11.3 is possible if the weight is not crazy. We think we have pretty much seen the limit of the stock turbo, it is the rest of the puzzle that will bring that answer!

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Dont let this thread die:smile:

 

[BillyRValentine]

In regards to the weight issue it is 3500-lbs for the GN's/Turbo-T's and 3650-lbs for the Turbo T/A's (Both w/driver.). In regards to the headers it would have to be a stock or factory replacement style header. Hope this helps.

Jim C. - GSCA Race Director

 

[Quiky One]

Dont let this thread die:smile:

If you are going to lead the class and you are possibly going to Ohio... Lets get it going for then! Count me in.

Jason

 

[NCTURBOS]

Weight? Headers? & most importantly rear end

Your car is too light, needs stock headers, and no spools allowed... So you need to stay home!! :biggrin:


K.

 

[67turboCamaro]

The rules say any 3" downpipe. So I guess I can I run my ATR DP with the ATR wastegate on it?

 

[BillyRValentine]

The rules say any 3" downpipe. So I guess I can I run my ATR DP with the ATR wastegate on it?

Yes that would be correct, you can run it.

Jim C. - GSCA Race Director

 

[Quiky One]

I talked to Nick Micale about the Ohio event and he said any other classes will be considered if the car count is high enough. So if someone would like to step up and maybe head the class maybe it could be done.

Jason