stolen car parts

[SouthernCal GN]

I ship a good quantity of parts, and more than once the offer of insurance for a package has been turned down, as the client doesn't want "to pay any more than he has to". So, I stopped offering it.

No case there- claim is with USPS, not the shipper. Shipper did exactly as requested. There's no requirement for the shipper to offer insurance.

 

[Nasty Wendy]

turbojitsu85 are you conservative-republican or liberal-democrat?

 

[broke1]

most vendors do not send parts out insured unless customer requests it...bashing steve is just stupid

No whats stupid is Steve bashing me and Tarey D on tbs.com for helping the guy out,thats stupid.Almost as dumb as showing a pic of a throttle body and saying "if you see one of these for sale in the area,contact me"

Its stuff like this that pisses me off the most about most Buick owners.A non vendor who did this would be chastised and ridiculed by yall while a VENDOR,who does this as a means of income can do no wrong...

That is until youre on the recieving end.I KNOW its not Steves fault AT ALL and he is 100% right that he shouldve requested ins but he didnt.

 

[Grumpy]

I ship a good quantity of parts, and more than once the offer of insurance for a package has been turned down, as the client doesn't want "to pay any more than he has to". So, I stopped offering it.

No case there- claim is with USPS, not the shipper. Shipper did exactly as requested. There's no requirement for the shipper to offer insurance.

sum's it up right to me :biggrin: I ship a lot of stuff but don't let the guys select ins or not ... I figure it in the price .. saves a lot of headaches later

 

[stevemon]

A pic was posted on TBS.Com only to show what my bored 62mm TBs look like. NO OTHER TB VENDOR HAS EVER done one of these with a polished throttle plate and security screws holding the plate on.
It's a TB unique to my shop alone. No hidden meaning suggesting Jeremy was trying to pull a fast one. I believed him from the start.
I'll let you have whatever opinion you like about what I should do as far as this theft goes but the fact is that no insurance was requested and the package was delivered. The only person I may have bashed was when I posted a link to Tom Hs post that suggested Jeremy should make a false statement that the pkg never arrived. Postman says it arrived. I fulfilled my obligation according to all instructions in this transaction. I've offered a fully equipped 62mm TB ready for installation at $90 less than what I would sell them for but that wasn't good enough. I can't do anything more.

 

[broke1]

Mease polished his throttle plates as well.....

Like I said in my earlier post,youre in the right but why be such a dick and name call those who are trying to make YOUR deal with the guy right?

 

[87GNSteve]

My wife made me sell my last gun because we have a three year old. Sorry I had to vent.

Whipped...

 

[gbsean]

His claim is with usps for not following their own guidlines...the vendor has nothing to do with it..package woud have been insured for less than $200 and acording to their guidlines..A no signature required and B package should not have been left there in the first place...take issue up with USPS

2.2.3 Parcel Delivery
An ordinary parcel too large to fit into a customer's mailbox is not left unless the customer has filed a written order with the postmaster relieving the USPS and carriers of all responsibility in case of loss or depredation of any such parcel left outside the box.

 

[stevemon]

Mease polished his throttle plates as well.....
Like I said in my earlier post,youre in the right but why be such a dick and name call those who are trying to make YOUR deal with the guy right?

Have a pic of a Mease TB w/a polished plate? Anyone else seen one? I haven't.

Can you show me where I bashed anyone who tried to help Jeremy out?

You fabricate these claims out of your own imagination Drew. Like the claim that I thought the whole theft story was a lie. You had no reason to say that and the statement fubar'd this whole deal making a solution unreachable.

The simple reason the pic was posted is b/c my TBs with the polished plate & security screws are a unique product. One like that pic came from my shop only.....or maybe you're the kind of guy that goes around to convenience stores and ridicule folks who post pics of their lost dogs & say "What's the picture for? Did you think we don't know what a dog looks like??"

As far as I can see, and anyone else ought to be able to see this too, your false accusations and the suggestion that I provide another 4-5 hours of my time for no charge to Jeremy caused him to expect an unrealistic solution in his misfortune. This is also the likely reason he got mad and refused the offer I made of a fully equipped TB discounted $90.
IMO you owe both him and me an apology for your statements and actions here.

I don't expect to get through to Drew but maybe some others if you think about what all went on here then you may underrstand why I pity anybody who has Broke1 for a friend.

 

[Ttype83]

Mease polished his throttle plates as well.....

Like I said in my earlier post,youre in the right but why be such a dick and name call those who are trying to make YOUR deal with the guy right?

Drew your statement Contradicts it's self. You say in the begining that Steve isn't at fault here, but at the end you basical are saying he didn't make it right....So which is it..just a little confussed by your posts.

Thanks
Jim

 

[TurboDave]

claim is with USPS, not the shipper. Shipper did exactly as requested. There's no requirement for the shipper to offer insurance.

This pretty much says it all. Any comments outside of this is pretty much wasted air.

 

[Grumpy]

This pretty much says it all. Any comments outside of this is pretty much wasted air.

yup !!!!!

 

[stevemon]

Now why would anyone file a Paypal dispute over an item that was delivered and then later stolen from his premises?
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From Paypal:

From Buyer: Jeremy Race on 6/21/2007 10:30 PDT

I sent Steve Monroe a throttle body and plenum for a 1987 Buick Grand National to be machined. He sent it back to me uninsured and it got stolen.


From Buyer: Jeremy Race on 6/21/2007 11:05 PDT

I filed a report with the Riverside Il police department when the shipment was stolen. The report number is 1418 R07-06981. Their phone number is (708) 447-2127 the report was taken by an Officer Ruiz. I have been in contact with the seller through email and he is unwilling to compensate me for my loss. He should be held liable because he did not insure a package that was valued between $300 and $350 dollars when he sent it to me.
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Dispute History Log - All Results Last 5 Show All
The Dispute History Log displays all actions related to your claim.
Date Actor Action Details
Jun. 21, 2007 PayPal Seller provided proof of shipping
Jun. 21, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Jun. 21, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Jun. 21, 2007 Buyer Temporary hold placed on funds until case is resolved
Jun. 21, 2007 Buyer Dispute escalated to claim
Jun. 21, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Jun. 21, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Jun. 21, 2007 Buyer Dispute filed


Now as Paypal often does, my $200 will be held by them for (per their user agreement) up to 30 days until they review what's transpired as shown above. Then they'll decide the dispute either for the buyer or the seller.

I believe Jeremy won't gain anything here. Only paypal is making out on this deal, in that they get to keep my $200 for up to a month.

 

[cruzn57]

my 2 cents

the fault lies with the shipping co, NOT with the shipper( Steve)
if I have something valuable arriving, I make sure someone can recieve it!
(had a stroker kit delivered, had neighbor hold it for me)
you need to file with shipping company,
I've used Steve before, went out of his way to accomidate me, I feel your
slandering a great vendor, for no reason.
suck it up and direct your complaint to the people at fault, ( actually your 50% at fault, the shipper is 50% )

good luck , hope it gets resolved ok.

 

[gbsean]

USPS Delivery regulations clearly state and I quote

2.2.3 Parcel Delivery
An ordinary parcel too large to fit into a customer's mailbox is not left unless the customer has filed a written order with the postmaster relieving the USPS and carriers of all responsibility in case of loss or depredation of any such parcel left outside the box.


customer needs to file claim...that what they have postal inspectors for...BASHING a vendor in good standing does nothing except make the BASHER's look STOOOOOOPID

 

[garyk1970]

anything I sell thats valued over $100 I insure, and I get delivery confirmation.

 

[The Radius Kid]

USPS Delivery regulations clearly state and I quote

2.2.3 Parcel Delivery
An ordinary parcel too large to fit into a customer's mailbox is not left unless the customer has filed a written order with the postmaster relieving the USPS and carriers of all responsibility in case of loss or depredation of any such parcel left outside the box.


customer needs to file claim...that what they have postal inspectors for...BASHING a vendor in good standing does nothing except make the BASHER's look STOOOOOOPID

Sounds pretty straight forward to me.

 

[broke1]

Have a pic of a Mease TB w/a polished plate? Anyone else seen one? I haven't.

Can you show me where I bashed anyone who tried to help Jeremy out? YOUR COMMENT ABOUT "WINNERS OVER ON TB" WASNT MEANT AS RIDICULE?

You fabricate these claims out of your own imagination Drew. Like the claim that I thought the whole theft story was a lie. You had no reason to say that and the statement fubar'd this whole deal making a solution unreachable. OH<SO NOW ITS ALL MY FAULT?

The simple reason the pic was posted is b/c my TBs with the polished plate & security screws are a unique product. One like that pic came from my shop only.....or maybe you're the kind of guy that goes around to convenience stores and ridicule folks who post pics of their lost dogs & say "What's the picture for? Did you think we don't know what a dog looks like??" TWIST IT SOME MORE....

As far as I can see, and anyone else ought to be able to see this too, your false accusations and the suggestion that I provide another 4-5 hours of my time for no charge to Jeremy caused him to expect an unrealistic solution in his misfortune. This is also the likely reason he got mad and refused the offer I made of a fully equipped TB discounted $90.
IMO you owe both him and me an apology for your statements and actions here. SO YOU ADMIT THAT THESE OFFERS WERE MADE AFTER THE FACT OF ME AND SOMEONE ELSE OFFERING TO MAKE YOUR DEAL RIGHT???I THOUGHT THAT BUT I WASNT GOING TO ACCUSE,THANKS FOR CLEARING IT UP.YOU WANT AN APOLOGY,FINE.IM SORRY YOURE SUCH A CHEAP HEARTLESS SOB AND THAT IM TRYING TO MAKE YOUR DEAL RIGHT,SORRY.

I don't expect to get through to Drew but maybe some others if you think about what all went on here then you may underrstand why I pity anybody who has Broke1 for a friend.WHY EVEN MAKE THIS STATMENT?

See above for comments.Im done,have all the sttitude you want you senile old bastard.

 

[stevemon]

Better to be senile than a weasel Drew. Being a weasel is a decision and it can be overcome with integrity. Being senile could affect anyone. You know you made false accusations against me and now you cut & run. Immaturity at it's utmost.
I would just advise you to stay out of my business from now on. :frown:

 

[gbsean]

See above for comments.Im done,have all the sttitude you want you senile old bastard.

Name calling always works in my book