TB v Supra

[BAGN]

Get hold of Lawrence Conley at Conley's Performance Plus(Houston, Tx). He was doing 7s over six years ago. I'm certain he could give you the details.

Its Humble,Tx, and it was over 10 years ago. but who's counting.

Thanks for the props.

Chris

http://www.bgnra.org/Lawrence ETown 96.htm

 

[Rodney87GN]

they are v6 twin turbo cars that made 300+hp, i think

actually they're inline 6s. :wink:

 

[loki993]

youre right, dont know why i said v6

 

[rodman99999]

Its Humble,Tx, and it was over 10 years ago. but who's counting.

Thanks for the props.

Chris

http://www.bgnra.org/Lawrence ETown 96.htm

OK- It was 1335 S. Houston Ave, Humble, Tx(I knew there was a "Houston" in there somewhere). I DID say OVER six years ago on the 7s. It's been that long since I've had the pleasure of dealing with you(and I've slept since then ). HEY- You've earned the props!!

 

[rodman99999]

I don't get it, every one is talking about the WRX going 12's off the floor but they can never keep up with me on the street and the last time I was at the track, I swear they weren't getting anywhere near the 12's in 1/4. Maybe they eeked out a 12 sec run with a stock STI? Personally, I'm more impressed with the DSM cars and I do kina like the SRT-4's. Iv'e seen those run 11's. Am I rambling?

This is a case of, "I read it in an article and (my bad) believed it!" Motor Trend did a comparison on a number of vehicles last year, and were claiming 12s for the WRX. My personal experience has been that the drivers usually can't get the cars to hook right, out the gate(SRT-4s and WRXs), then have to play, "try and catch up."

 

[WICKEDGN]

Better? In what way is it "better"? If you like ricers- it might be better for you. Stupid-ru has a car(with all the personality of a sponge in my eyes) that goes 12s off the showroom floor(WRX). That would be better for some. They(NO DOUBT) handle and stop better. If it gets better gas mileage- it's better that way. Larry Conley built his T/R('Tweaked') to go 7.75/178.98 mph in the quarter, before aerodynamics started working against him, so: we know we can get these RWD bricks to hook and run into the sevens. That would be fast enough for me(IF I had the jack, and the need be that quick). I said all that to say: "better" is purely up to an individual's way of thinking. For me personally: the T/R is "better." I can tune it to go as fast/quick as I'll ever want(without having to sell the house/Harley/firstborn male child), I love the body style(always have), it's a great sleeper, comfortable to sit in, there aren't 20,000 others running the streets, it's ALL American(even if some of the fasteners are metric)- and I don't have any desire to be associated with the ricers(the majority are knobs in this neighborhood and show it constantly). BUT: that's just me !!!

You my friend, are retard.. ive never ever seen a supra more than once a month on the street letalone what it can do!!! talking ofcourse of the mkiv-tt model..

 

[TurboBuickSix]

You my friend, are retard.. ive never ever seen a supra more than once a month on the street letalone what it can do!!! talking ofcourse of the mkiv-tt model..

Just wondering... Is your spacebar and shift key broken or do you actually have sub 3rd grade english skills? Why don't you be a man and try to act like your face to face with him instead of being so brave behind that keyboard like a little boy? Totally uncalled for,I don't see any reason for this response reading his post,lighten up or go to the ricer boards and post that type of disrespectful crap.Maybe you need to have a disabled person in your family so you can be really cool and call him\her a retard too.

 

[rodman99999]

You my friend, are retard.. ive never ever seen a supra more than once a month on the street letalone what it can do!!! talking ofcourse of the mkiv-tt model..

Before you refer to anyone as being, "retard"(I'm assuming you meant, "retarded"- you might(at least) try using your spell-check(IF you can find the button),learn how to use apostrophes, capital letters and properly space you words. You might further not indicate that you can't handle the Supra's power(per the wreck in you sig). I was referring to Ricers in general, have seen plenty of Supras in this area and don't really care if there were only ten of that particular model were built. The TR is STILL BETTER FOR ME!!! As said: a matter of preference(that means: "Ah jest likes 'em better", in case you don't get it).

 

[rodman99999]

Then he had to install a TH-400 in the Supra(per his sig, unless he screwed that up too).

 

[cool 84]

Don't be so close minded. I hate ricers as much as anyone else but the MKIV Supras usually don't fall into that category. I see them about as often as I see a GN which is just about never. They can't compete with the GNs in cost vs 1/4 times but there are a lot of fast ones around regardless. A lot of Supras don't run great times given their hp but watch out for the TH400 cars. Not all of them are slow off the line. I've run into a few cocky misguided kids with Supras and spanked them but their crowd generally gives ours a lot of respect.

Hell, I ended up meeting a couple cute 18yr old girls who chased me down for a race in their mother's TT Supra. They didn't know what my car was but turns out they were chasing down anything that sounded loud or looked fast that night. They hit it first, I blew by (stock Supra, modded GN), I saw the female passenger and figured it was her boyfriend driving and to my astonishment the driver was a girl who made me pull over to see what I had in my car. Did I mention they were cute?

 

[rodman99999]

Don't be so close minded. I hate ricers as much as anyone else but the MKIV Supras usually don't fall into that category. I see them about as often as I see a GN which is just about never. They can't compete with the GNs in cost vs 1/4 times but there are a lot of fast ones around regardless. A lot of Supras don't run great times given their hp but watch out for the TH400 cars. Not all of them are slow off the line. I've run into a few cocky misguided kids with Supras and spanked them but their crowd generally gives ours a lot of respect.

Most of the responses (thus far) have agreed that it's a matter of preference. That's NOT closed-mindedness! If everyone had the same tastes- it'd be a REALLY boring world. I, personally, don't(and didn't say I did) "hate" Ricers(which, being a Harley rider for the past 40yrs, to me connotes: anything that comes from Asia). I just don't want to be associated with them(and, as stated: the majority of them at that). I've gotten acquainted with few that are serious about performance. One snuck up on me with a completely stock appearing Talon (low tens), another had an RX-7 with an LS-1 stuffed in it- IF hybrids count(we ran dead even, which surprised the hell out of him ). If rarity were the weightiest factor in this discussion: I suppose the AC Cobra(the aluminum original, NOT a knock-off) that Shelby built(wouldn't matter which engine) would have to be the all time "best" for me(talk about a pipe dream ). To clarify my original post: I never said there were 20,000 of anything else in particular out there(I DID have rice in general on my mind), just that there aren't 20,000 TRs. Obviously: there are those that read what I said, but didn't understand what I meant. How's that for rambling ?

 

[Quint]

Get hold of Lawrence Conley at Conley's Performance Plus(Houston, Tx). He was doing 7s over six years ago. I'm certain he could give you the details.

I would agree, and while your there, check out "Fear", the turbo alone with scare the bajesus!@# out of ya, haha, kidding. But Conley would give good info on the matter

 

[Quint]

Don't be so close minded. I hate ricers as much as anyone else but the MKIV Supras usually don't fall into that category. I see them about as often as I see a GN which is just about never. They can't compete with the GNs in cost vs 1/4 times but there are a lot of fast ones around regardless. A lot of Supras don't run great times given their hp but watch out for the TH400 cars. Not all of them are slow off the line. I've run into a few cocky misguided kids with Supras and spanked them but their crowd generally gives ours a lot of respect.

Most of the responses (thus far) have agreed that it's a matter of preference. That's NOT closed-mindedness! If everyone had the same tastes- it'd be a REALLY boring world. I, personally, don't(and didn't say I did) "hate" Ricers(which, being a Harley rider for the past 40yrs, to me connotes: anything that comes from Asia). I just don't want to be associated with them(and, as stated: the majority of them at that). I've gotten acquainted with few that are serious about performance. One snuck up on me with a completely stock appearing Talon (low tens), another had an RX-7 with an LS-1 stuffed in it- IF hybrids count(we ran dead even, which surprised the hell out of him ). If rarity were the weightiest factor in this discussion: I suppose the AC Cobra(the aluminum original, NOT a knock-off) that Shelby built(wouldn't matter which engine) would have to be the all time "best" for me(talk about a pipe dream ). To clarify my original post: I never said there were 20,000 of anything else in particular out there(I DID have rice in general on my mind), just that there aren't 20,000 TRs. Obviously: there are those that read what I said, but didn't understand what I meant. How's that for rambling ?

I agree Rodman9999, the Gn just hits me where no other car does. I like the Supra's too, but definitly prefer the killer, get out of my way looks of the GN

 

[TARZAN]

I own a site called www.torqueaddicts.net for a reason....and its not because I want a Supra

-Will

 

[WhiteT78Supra]

I really do love and respect the GN, the T/R, and the TT/A but you have to have some respect for the Supra too.

There are quite a few fast Supra's out there.



I do know for a fact that not all of the fast ones are on this list of the top 100 or even want to be on this list... :smile:




1. 7.906@180.77 KRYSTOS EFANTIS MSP RACING 3315lbs DRs best MPH 185.44

2. 7.94@181 Gary White Titan Motorsports 3.4L, GT55-88, nitrous, PG
8.9@163 on the stock 6 speed

3. 8.02@174 Boostlogic. GT47-80, TH400, nitrous, 3000lbs(?)

4. 8.19@166 Chris Anderson AAP Powerglide

5. 8.34@171 Dana Westover/Virtual Works Auto GT47-88, nitrous, full weight

6. 8.45@162 Marko D. Sound Performance Full weight daily driver

7. 8.45@xxx(need trap speed) WOTM/1st Upholstery Auto 3.4L, GT47-88, 3300lbs

8. 8.46@166 Errol@TPS

9. 8.58@165 Dan Willie Batlground Engineering Auto
10.3@144 6 Speed Drag Radials

10. 8.60@168 Larry Prebis Sound Performance Auto Full weight

11. 8.60@163mph (Fast Forward Motorwerks 94 supra BFG DRAG RADIALS @28.5lbs of boost with 100 shot of NO2)

12 8.62@171 Ryan Woon. 6 speed, 3.4L stroker, GT47-88, 100 shot, 3550lbs

13. 8.76@164 Joakim Menghini Supramannen Racing driven by Rickard Cornacchini

14. 8.97@166.6 Paul Efantis/MSP Full weight 6speed

15. 8.98@154 Dusty Womack MVP/Powerhouseracing Auto

16. 9.09@157.47 Cody Phillips WOTM

17. 9.13@160 Albert Diaz Powerglide 3578 pounds

18. 9.17@152 Jason Siebels 76GTS, 4-speed Auto, no spray, no TB, 3850lbs

19. 9.22@159 Saad Saad Intense Motorsports GT47-88, 6 speed, 3780lbs

20. 9.40@148 Daniel Donofan Virtual Works Racing 3600lbs, auto, 74mm turbo No Nitrous

21. 9.46@149 Rich Kobliha Ground Zero 94 Surpra SP400 Twin GT35's full weight

22. 9.46@143 Dave Henry Innovate Motorsports Auto NA-T Stock NA engine

23. 9.47@145 Jack Wang/Virtual Works Full weight 76GTS 6speed

24. 9.54@147 Joel Tazman

25. 9.57@150 Ara Arslanian Bullish Racing Videos here 6 speed

26. 9.67@148.08 Peter Blach/SW/Performance Motorsports/Boost Logic/Tuning Concepts/6speed, no nitrous

27. 9.68@152.52 Anthony Melber 6 speed/ Motorsports Performance

28. 9.7@148 Gary White Titan Motorsports

29. 9.7@154 Bob Helms TH400 Performance Motorsports

30. 9.71@148 Yamil Widy/AAP Motorsports /Built Toyota auto/ drag radials

31. 9.81@154 SW Turboimports/Performance Motorsports 6 Speed/Full Weight Street Car

32. 9.82@147 Flamed Supra Performance Factory Auto

33. 9.83@139 Humberto Aubi Dynamic Turbo Auto

34. 9.84@146 Matt Miller MSP 6 Speed/No Nitrous/Full Weight
Street car

35. 9.87@137.09 Al Blaha Auto, Street Car, 3540 lbs, M/T ET Street Radials

36. 9.88@145 Jeff Allen, 6spd, Induction Motorsports

37. 9.899@143.59 Gary White

38. 9.8?@144 Vinny Ten Performance Factory

39. 9.9@139 Duy/Boost Logic

40. 9.90@136 Chris Bergemann HorsepowerFreaks Inc

41. 9.91@146 John Firth 97 6speed PTE 74GTS

42. 9.91@144 Jarret H. Powerhouse Racing(Red car) Auto 9.91

43. 9.97@142 Greg Baker Injected Performance/RTC

44. 9.98@137 Toyomoto/Lujan Motorsports NA-T

45. 9.98@118 Ben Blalock Powerhouse Racing(Silver Car) Auto ESPN Video

46. 9.98@140.5 Mike

47. 9.99@146 Byron Stewart Titan Motorsports 9 second run

48. 9.9?@149 SW's Hardtop Turboimports/Performance Motorsports No Nitrous

49. 9.99@137 Warren Rattray

50. 10.00@140 Jason Crooks Boostlogic Auto

51. 10.02@147 Rhys Millen UPRD

52. 10.05@142.17 Andrew Schutsky/Xotic Motorsports

53. 10.05@139 Val Thakore on Boost Only, ET Streets and Toy Trans/Full Weight

54. 10.05@140 Tony B. 10.07@140.38mph GTR70 Turbo from Induction Motorsports, Full Weight Street Car, No N20
10.90@128 on stock twins and nitrous

55. 10.10@131 Billy Cha

56. 10.10@133 Rich Eager Fuzion Motorsports

57. 10.10@139 Kwan Jin/Nick Riley Apex Motorsports/WOTM.com

58. 10.12@140 Jason Lords

59. 10.12@143 Jesus 94 Supra- Shop Innovations Performance

60. 10.13@141 Eric Cayton, 6-spd

61. 10.15@132 Henry Nguyen Auto SGP Racing BFG Drag Radials

62. 10.15@146 Son Nguyen 6 Speed

63. 10.15@135 Dave Andino SpeedCraft Engineering Auto

64. 10.18@142 97 Royal Sapphire Pearl 6spd - WOTM

65. 10.19@144 Jamie Farrer

66. 10.19@144 Pete Ibrahim Garage Advance 6 speed

67. 10.1?@137 Mike Carlin Sound performance Auto

68. 10.20@133 Mark Cooper Sound Performance Auto 10.3 on BFG's

69. 10.22@134 James aka Ktrends

70. 10.25@140 Tim Iacoli

71. 10.28@141 Brad Daley

72. 10.28@139 Angel Robles Garage Advance

73. 10.2?@134 Jerry Vodden Sound performance Auto

74. 10.2?@145 Cody Whitehead 6 speed/Performance Motorsports

75. 10.32@142 Reidar Elvsveen 6 Speed 3550 pounds

76. 10.37@136 Alfred Rhee GReddy T78 no nitrous - 6 speed

77. 10.37@135 Andrew Schutsky Xotic Motorsports, Full weight auto

78. 10.37@132.33 Steve Pool T78, BL Auto, 3800 stall, DRs/VPC/SAFR, full weight

79. 10.39@145 Augie from Tx

80. 10.40@130 Al Canada South Florida Performance

81. 10.41@139 Guilly Polo on BFG Drag Radials Suprastore

82. 10.41@131 Rickard C. Powerhouse Racing

83. 10.44@142 MPH Douglas Pelsor Forgeline/Wheel Source/SP

84. 10.44@139 Tripp Tatum

85 10.44@134 Walter Dumas Dynamic Turbo

86. 10.45@138 Ryan King

87. 10.46@129 Tony Bonilla Performance Motorsports Auto

88. 10.47@137 Dave Jusko RPS/World Electronics10.47 Video here

89. 10.48@143.6 Richard Homer Mickey Thompson Drag Radials Six speed (no nitrous)

90. 10.49@146 Chris Johnson Turboimports/Performance Motorsports

91. 10.5@145 Darren Strunk aka Walser Turboimports/Performance Motorsports

92. 10.51@132.25 Tom Cardone Boostlogic/Transwerk Auto

93. 10.53@142 Jesus Rivera Garage Advance

94. 10.53@132 Kirk R. MZM International Auto

95. 10.53@137 Jerry Reyes Jr. 6 speed

96. 10.55@134 Gary Grossman Sound Performance Auto

97. 10.60@136 Jimmy P.

98. 10.62@130.57 Carl Martin(NitroFish)/Virtual Works TH400, GT42-76

99. 10.63@140 Stacey Barnett

100. 10.63@139 Al Stanek
























And this small list is of 2JZ powered tubbed and pro-import class cars. Cause we all know that no matter what the shell is, it has the heart of the MKIV Supra (in no order)

PRO Rear Wheel Drive

1. 6.40@220 Titan Scion 05

2. 6.478@215.41 Vince Fourcade Titan Motorsports '05 Celica

3. 6.498@217.12 Brad Pedsonett Titan Motorsports '04 Celica

4. 6.506@215.07 Matt Scranton Ride Revloution '03 Celica

5. 6.537@213.40 Ara Arslanian Bullish Motor Sports Solara Pro

6. 6.670@174.83 Tirso Sanjuan Ride Revloution '04 Celica

7. 6.707@205.54 George Ioannou Bullish Motor Sports Solara Pro

8. 6.958@202.45 Grant Downing Venom Tundra pro

8. 7.266@185.45 Craig Paisley Tundra Pro

9. 7.376@185.64 Henry Garcia Lexus SC300

10. 7.53@180 Jimmy O'connor Venom Tacoma Pro-Import


Modified class

1. 7.168@189.87 Justin Humphries 98 Lexus GS300

2. 7.191@194.16 Paul Efantis Solara

3. 7.303@191.10 Vinny Ten 98 Supra

4. 7.800@177.84 Jimmy O'Connor 98 Supra

5. 8.17@164 Craig Paisley 98 Supra

Here are some nice runs of Titan Motorsports Scion tC going 6.50's all day long with a 183 cu inch Supra engine...

http://www.highboost.com/movies/TitanRace/titan-650salldaylong.wmv

 

[rodman99999]

My guess is: the car in the video isn't a daily driver. A 10 second Eclipse, a Talon, and a couple Mustangs locally have earned my respect(all daily drivers). All have way more money in their cars than I do, and I don't desire to own(except maybe to sell) any of those cars. "Respect" and preference("better" for me-the theme of this thread) are two entirely different concepts. IF I had the need, time and jack, I could make my '93 Geo Prizm(winter beater for the last 6yrs, and YES: made by Toyota) do 6s, dropping the body on a Chevette frame, and installing a slightly modded T/R drivetrain. For me(personally): that's a "why bother" thing. I'd just have to go out and find another dependable beater. "Better" connotes want/need/practical in my world(that kinda stuff). There are a number of things out there people do that I think of as a waste of time. I'm certain those people would say(as I have for a LONG time now): "If I have to explain- you wouldn't understand!!"

 

[83hurstguy]

so I once heard a joke that went something like...

what do a 500 hp and 800 hp Supra have in common?

timeslips.

all in good fun :wink: I do like Supras for what they are, gotta respect them, but their market value is really high.

and I agree with a lot of the comments that stock WRX's are not that fast. Seen a lot of kids with them at the track running 14.5's. Most of those car magazines launch them around 5000+ rpm to lay down some impressive numbers for their magazine article.

flamesuit on for the people who quote this and claim I am "hating" on one type of car

 

[GNguy]

so I once heard a joke that went something like...

what do a 500 hp and 800 hp Supra have in common?

timeslips.

all in good fun :wink: I do like Supras for what they are, gotta respect them, but their market value is really high.

and I agree with a lot of the comments that stock WRX's are not that fast. Seen a lot of kids with them at the track running 14.5's. Most of those car magazines launch them around 5000+ rpm to lay down some impressive numbers for their magazine article.

flamesuit on for the people who quote this and claim I am "hating" on one type of car

Its cool, I "hate" on supras all day long. most of the owners are just cocky a$$holes to begin with. I think I am going to get a sticker that says "supras hate me" if I ever get my car running :biggrin:

 

[rodman99999]

To hate or drive what we choose is a perogative we still possess in this country. I have the freedom to choose a Buick(and not speak japanese/german) because of the people that gave their lives in WWII. THAT I respect !! Where can I get one of those flamesuits?(that'd be hot at the strip!)

 

[WhiteT78Supra]

Its cool, I "hate" on supras all day long. most of the owners are just cocky a$$holes to begin with. I think I am going to get a sticker that says "supras hate me" if I ever get my car running :biggrin:

That's funny, around here the Supra guys and the GN guys hang together...