My current job is going overseas

[Little6pack]

Well I fell victim to another sweat shop in INDIA


By end of month i will lose my current position, Lucky for me that my boss worked hard at getting me on days into our production team.
So my lush second shift is gone & working days in Taxacusetts UGH! is back. no more driving the GN on the 2 nice summer days we get up here.

At least i still have a job.

 

[Pronto]

Ugh. That bites!

 

[Slow91z]

Ouch.

 

[YGETV8]

Take some comfort in knowing that it's only to remain "competetive", NOT to line the shareholders or execs pockets. Yeah, I buy that one!

I'm "bailing" on the manufacturing industry and getting into a service career that they CAN'T send to another country. Millions of jobs have gone... don't see it stopping anytime soon.

Good Luck!

 

[strikeeagle]

Maybe it was TOO "lush"???

Actually, why not follow your job to India??? They have great weather and the chicks are SMOKIN...

 

[bruce]

Originally posted by littlesixsteve
Well I fell victim to another sweat shop in INDIA


By end of month i will lose my current position, Lucky for me that my boss worked hard at getting me on days into our production team.
So my lush second shift is gone & working days in Taxacusetts UGH! is back. no more driving the GN on the 2 nice summer days we get up here.

At least i still have a job.

CNN had some interesting blurbs from CEOs.

One being a job, isn't an American Right.
It was some chick CEO (Intel, ?), anyway I wonder who she sees as here market once enough jobs go overseas.

Some other comments were that the some of the foreign job markets have a more educated, and talented work force.

Things are gonna get alot worse before getting better.
Especially, with all these think tanks, were the folks are disconnected from any realities.

 

[The Radius Kid]

Re: Re: My current job is going overseas

Originally posted by bruce
CNN had some interesting blurbs from CEOs.

One being a job, isn't an American Right.

Nice how those same CEO's don't mention that raping the worker's pension funds isn't a right either,or is it?

 

[Turbo T/A 1543]

You know, I've got to say this - but aren't we doing this to ourselves? Whenever I purchase anything I WILL buy American made, even if it is twice as much. This isn't always an option, but if you look around, you can generally find what you want made here. I am truly sorry to see OUR jobs leaving OUR country. People flock to the Walmarts / Autozones etc. to spend their bucks as a matter of convenience / price, but look at the packages before you buy, and in most cases it sure looks like we're screwing ourselves!

 

[dsa87gn]

that bites...

I work in product Engineering for a manufacturing company. In the last couple of years our shop has been dwindling due to outsourcing parts overseas. Our president did articles in the local paper, fortune, was on CNN etc...

It really is sad. One of our machines that we make was copied by the chinese. IT is an exact clone with interchangeable parts that now sells on the market for about 1/2 of what it costs us to EVEN
MAKE let alone sell and make a profit.

To combat costs, our manufacturing group has been outsourcing
certain parts that coincidentally are coming from, you guessed it,
china.

Example: a shaft that we machine in house (several 1000/year)
was coming out at a cost of ~$60 after labor/overhead were factored in. This same part coming in from overseas, 100% inspected and guaranteed is $1.

Cant compete with the disguting low labor rates abroad. Many
companies are "working the system" in order to put a made in USA label. Only a certain percentage of the work is required to be done in order to declare this. I have a friend who works in a plant that manufactures womens undergarments. They buy the materials ship them overseas where they are cut and sewn, flown back to his plant where they put a made in USA tag on them.


pretty depressing...Jay is right, I dont see the trend stopping anytime soon...

 

[V6DVette]

I recently was chatting with a machine shop owner that had put a bid in to make a part. His costs for just the material was $.26. China bid $.21 finished product delivered...How do we compete when all they get paid over there is 2 bowls of rice and a fish head?

I called AOL with a problem. The woman had a very pronounced accent. I asked her where she was. She said India. I must have groaned or something cause she added that it was like 3AM there and that she had a Ph.D. in computer science and made $18 a week. She was scared for her job cause AOL was talking about moving to Pakistan because the pay there is $12 a week. So even service jobs are in jeopardy.

The government needs to put a tax on all imports and end fair trade agreements with countrys that wont trade fair with us.
Tax the crap outta them...lower our taxes
Oh...and buy AMERICAN!!!!

 

[strikeeagle]

$18 a week for a PhD?

How much are the hookers???

 

[bishir]

You know, I've got to say this - but aren't we doing this to ourselves?

I think so. We want to buy whatever cost the cheapest in the store and usually it's whatever was the cheapest to produce. Then we as American workers demand to be paid very high incomes with great healthcare, vacations, for our work making very good but expensive products that we as Americans don't want to buy because it costs more than the competition. Just think what's going to happen as China continues to modernize it's country and that's just for starters. Just think if Africa ever stops fighting civil wars and fighting diseases. Then America's time on top will be very limited. Maybe it's time to put higher Tarrifs on foriegn goods? I know when they dropped the steel tarriffs hundreds of American steel mills shut their doors including the one my dad worked for in Indiana.

BTW, I think one of the biggest scams is the fact people believe buying Japanesse cars are okay because most are made in the US and it give Americans jobs. It does, but where does the big money really go? When I was in the Suburu plant in Indiana all the Engineers and higher skilled workers looked like they were just brought over from Japan for a few months of work.

 

[strikeeagle]

The implication is that we should be happy to pay a guy who eats rice and fish heads 10 cents a month to make a doorknob or whatever, so that we don't have to make it, so that we are free to do something more productive with our short time on earth.

BTW, the Chinese are already sweating the fact that THEIR labor costs are too high, so what goes around comes around.

It's simple economics, if somebody can make it cheaper than you, you will not make it. That's the way the world works.

It's not a good time to be skill-less in America. Unless your 50 Cent, the ex-crack dealer, who made $18,000,000 last year, and has his own line of athletic shoes...

 

[bishir]

It's not a good time to be skill-less in America. Unless your 50 Cent, the ex-crack dealer, who made $18,000,000 last year, and has his own line of athletic shoes...

Yup, there is another problem with our country....

 

[buickpower]

jobs

BTW, I think one of the biggest scams is the fact people believe buying Japanesse cars are okay because most are made in the US and it give Americans jobs. It does, but where does the big money really go? When I was in the Suburu plant in Indiana all the Engineers and higher skilled workers looked like they were just brought over from Japan for a few months of work.

bishir, this is EXACTLY right. I tell people this all the time but they don't believe me. littlesixsteve, sorry to hear about that job, hopefully something else will work out, and, like you said, at least you still have one for now. good luck.

 

[V6DVette]

Who said we won WW2? Between the Germans,Japs and the Chinese, not a shot will be fired. They're just gonna forclose.

It's not a good time to be skill-less in America. Unless your 50 Cent, the ex-crack dealer, who made $18,000,000 last year, and has his own line of athletic shoes...

...and it wont matter if your a skilled worker or not. No one will be buying his shoes.



I'm never gonna finish this car!

 

[typhoon]

This thread is of much interest to me right now.

I am in the position, my current work is moving part of the product down south.

I am lucky in that I have the choice to "help". Or choose not to "help" and be looking for new.

I can see both sides also, the business and maintaining profit, and workers trying to live and make decent money. No real in between.

In our situation, the part that topped it off, was a major customer at the end of last year, requiring a refund check. This customer is also very agressive, and the profit margins are not much if any anways, so the forced refund check to continue doing business was the topping to look at alternative to make parts cheaper.

Unfortunetly this is a GLOBAL economy. Wether we like it or not.

I guess we just need to learn how to survive in it.


As mentioned though, it is a double edge sword. As EVERYBODY when they go to store, purchase something is looking for best deal. From TV to cars. I would say 99.9% of the time, no research is done as to where it was made, how, etc.

Vicous circle.

 

[V6DVette]

This thread is of much interest to me right now.

At least the jobs are staying in THIS country. Global economy or not...it isn't a level playing field as long as we're dealing with countries that don't have the same restrictions as we do. And don't get me started on safety, environmental concerns that they don't have to follow. It all adds to the bottom line and as long as we don't TAX the hell outta imports it will be our down fall.
It costs my company $12000 an hour for down time. They complain our costs are too high yet think nothing of having a 2 hour meeting over how someone's gonna change a light bulb safely. I bet someone just climbs out on the machine and changes it in China...If they fall there's a fresh coolie waiting to take his job before he hits the ground....and no one even blinks.




I'm never gonna finish this car!

 

[d0n_3d]

I wish I could find a job that pays more than $8.50/hr !!! How is anyone supposed to live off this crap...Granted I haven't complete any college yet...but what does everyone else do if they don't have a college degree? It's sad that you have to pay up the @$$ for college just to get your foot in the door...I know lots of guys who have B.S. degrees right now and they are working the same jobs as I...they can't find anything else...makes me wonder why I would even go to college...why spend $100K or more for college just to put yourself in a HUGE hole when you get out??? Doesn't make sense to me...the reason you go to college is so you can MAKE more money...not LOSE more money...sigh....

 

[typhoon]

I won't disagree it isn't a "LEVEL" playing field.

Not much I can do about it though, except to stay ahead of the game.

I was lucky in that I did get a college degree, and don't regret that at all. Without it, I would be SOL.

Being this is happening at my current job, I am still unsure how to take it, yet see both sides. Is a tough position.