Pronto
Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.
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I found your dentures, someone made a bracelet out of them.hey I have a toof to eat wit. then I give it back to da dog
I found your dentures, someone made a bracelet out of them.hey I have a toof to eat wit. then I give it back to da dog
Very informative post.
You said your custom steel stator allows you to get the 9.5's to a higher brake stall, I know stall speed is based on weight and tq, but take a common setup like a 6262 with a mild cam making mid 500 tq with one of your 3000rpm nl's that has a foot brake stall of 3000rpm, what would a setup like this stall on a trans brake? Also what is the process or formula used among converter builders to determine true stall speed off a trans brake? Is true stall off the brake rated for 250ftlbs and every 100ftlbs over 250 raisies true stall up 200 rpm?
NO I don't.. Enlighten me
I'm not getting into a pissing match. I'm just keeping all the bs you've been told and continue to spew in check.
I'll itemize these so you can answer them in order. It's clear you know nothing about converters so anyone can tell you a line of bs and you don't know any different.
So your saying a single disc 9.5 Lu converter can hold 1500 hp while locked? Let us hear the names of those who have done this. Holding 1500 hp unlocked is possible for a single disc, locked is another story.
Do you know what makes a converter billet and what it's advantage is?
I want the part number off the converter he "improved on" copied or whatever. There is a 10" NLU from PTC that measures 9.5 that costs 475. I do not call it a 9.5 to eliminate confusion but if a "converter guy" looked at it he'd call it a 9.5 as its the same core as the Vigilante, yank etc...if he improved on it then you can still get my part number off the converter.
There is nothing special about any converter out there. It's just a combination of parts that achieve a stall speed. Those who can't figure it out on their own copy those who do. Guess which category your guy fits in...
So from what I gather he took a PTC which was most likely to tight for the combo, loosened so it was more optimal for the combo and it ran faster. Yea that's ground breaking stuff that's never been done before. We probably ship 10 of those restalled converters from other manufacturers daily. With data from a running car things can often be improved on.
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First you have to prove it's better. Trust us. Once you do that we will be all ears. After that peoples opinions don't matter. Then you can start a thread as to why it's better. If I see you start a thread that doesnt prove your claims it will likely get re-named and or locked. You have yet to prove anything.Answers in order
Yes it can hold the power locked and is doing so on a 1,200hp application without any issues.
Only the parts that are used in the making of said converter.
I don't have the part# of said converter but it isn't one of the cheap PTC converters, he paid over one thousand for it.
He didn't improve that actual PTC converter but looked at what was in that one and built his own converter, not using the PTC nissan core or opel technology parts it contains which is what the PTC uses and has it's own limitations.
Like I said in the past though he has reworked other PTC converters.
I will start my own thread to stop the high jacking of this one and explain what the differences are and why the PTC is not the best converter out there.
I know this will create a hornets nest, as the PTC crowd is very defensive of that converter, but I will try to stay to the facts and not pollute the thread with opinions or sarcasm and expect others to show the same respect.
I'm up for an honest debate and also want the TR community to have the very best parts available to them at an affordable cost.
RZ
Answers in order
Yes it can hold the power locked and is doing so on a 1,200hp application without any issues.
Only the parts that are used in the making of said converter. But the most important part in mine is the one piece billet damper with no springs to break or get weak and provides a lock up feel comparable to a 1/2 shift which in my case is instant while engaging which keeps the clutch from over heating and wearing it out, also the clutch has more surface area and is made of carbon and therefore can hold more power at higher power levels than in the past.
I don't have the part# of said converter but it isn't one of the cheap PTC converters, he paid over one thousand for it.
He didn't improve that actual PTC converter but looked at what was in that one and built his own converter, not using the PTC nissan core or opel technology parts it contains which is what the PTC uses and has it's own limitations.
Like I said in the past though he has reworked other PTC converters.
I will start my own thread to stop the high jacking of this one and explain what the differences are and why the PTC is not the best converter out there.
I know this will create a hornets nest, as the PTC crowd is very defensive of that converter, but I will try to stay to the facts and not pollute the thread with opinions or sarcasm and expect others to show the same respect.
I'm up for an honest debate and also want the TR community to have the very best parts available to them at an affordable cost.
RZ
...Let's just see if it stays honest, because that's all I'm looking for and that's what the TR community deserves.
Yeah. Lets just see if it stays honest. Post up the performance and reliability of your converter. First you can post up the data that evaluates the performance. Im sure that will gather some opinions. We will see how reliable it is or isnt over time. Dont even waste your time posting pics of the insides of converters until you have proven that your converter is better in both performance and reliability. 99% of the people reading have no clue about what does what in a converter and all they want is a product that performs and lasts. Like the product that PTC offers in their 9.5". If you want to post up pics of converters and get technical about what does what and why something could possibly be better than another design you can go ahead but the converters need to be proven to not be reliable or unreliable and saying this one will fail prematurely because of this has to be proven also. Its like saying you have a bullet resistant vest that is better than another. Yet you havent taken one hit in either one to say yes this one definitely this one is definitely a better design and i am better protected because this other one allowed x round to penetrate at x velocity and this one stopped it under the same condittons. The burden of proof is on you at this point. We arent concerned with reliability of PTC's 9.5". There are hundreds out there that have run the number and stood the test of time well over 1000hp too. You need to prove your converters reliability for sure though and its performance. Especially when being locked at 1000+hp repeatedly. We are a little worried about your converters reliability since we havent seen anything proving anything yet except a bunch of internet spew.I will do exactly what I said.
I will tell what parts are in a PTC and what parts are in his converter.
I will explain the weakness and strength of each design.
Dusty and any other reputable converter builders will be able to tell if I'm talking BS or not.
Let's just see if it stays honest, because that's all I'm looking for and that's what the TR community deserves.
Had I not put a converter in Otto's car years ago it would have been hard to convince anyone. Everyone saw the immediate gains for a converter that wasn't even dialed in for his combo so it was easy to believe.
You initially claimed, or so I thought, your builder opened up a 9.5 PTC, restalled it and the guy picked up 2 tenths. Now your saying he didn't use that PTC but instead copied it. If he did't need to copy it there would have been no reason to open it up to (look inside). He would have just started from scratch with his own ideas. So just looking over all these posts, said builder has said there's nothing special about them, his are better yet he had to open one up and use what he learned to build his own. Remember this same builder has taken 3 times to perfect yours. I also remember in the beginning you coming to me and Bison for advice on how it should stall.
As with anything on the net, results are proven over time. Had I not put a converter in Otto's car years ago it would have been hard to convince anyone. Everyone saw the immediate gains for a converter that wasn't even dialed in for his combo so it was easy to believe.