opinions on what transbrakes tear up....

[Blazer406]

2004R mainly... but share your info even if you are using another tranny.

I hear some say... it will take out the thrust bearings in the motor....

I hear some say... it will tear the converter up....

I hear this...and that....

I have heard alot of the faster guys occasionally launch on a tranny brake... but more often use the footbrake instead.

What do you do...?

If you tore anything up.....by using the tranny brake.........what was it??

 

[PaCemkr86]

i tore up my right rear tire after the car wheelied 3 foot in the air. LOL


remember.. "your strongest part is only as good as your weakest link"


i say go with one.. i wouldnt even consider running my TR with out one anymore..

too much fun.

 

[Alky V6]

The way I understand it, everyone that runs a transbrake with their 200-4R has had zero problems. Sounds amazing to me.

 

[PaCemkr86]

lol.. well the pic above is with my TH400.. i currently have the Century 2004r with brake back in it now

 

[Alky V6]

 

[johnplogii]

Transbrake

I put approx 250-300 passes on the car this year launching off the trans brake with no problems. I did break an input shaft on the tranny the first time out so I went with a billet one(thanks Brian Hofer). No problems since.

 

[brian]

As PaCemkr86 said, they are to much fun not to have. I would not have one of my own cars with a 2004R without a brake.

I always recommend them for my customers.
When the trans is being assembled, you might as well do it then!
I have seen 2 input shafts break this year, John`s with the brake, and Al Tylko`s without.
If the trans is built right, I say go for it.

Brian

 

[Warp6]

What's the best brake to put in one? Oh yeah, and what will I break when I get it installed?!

 

[Lee Thompson]

How about

U-joints--axles and posi units.

 

[chris718]

although a loud voice around here says the stage right doesnt work i beg to differ.although i make and sell electric solenoid type i have had 0 problems with the stage right.once the car hooks drive shaft and final drive failures can result although rare if they are in good working order.the input shaft snaps because of the way the brake works and the engine tears it right off the overdrive carrier with applied torque.i will be running a killer sale on the stage right shortly,MAKE NO MISTAKE ITS NOT MY DESIGN ,but i will be producing them for those out there that are interested with our complete recalibration kit very soon.

 

[PaCemkr86]

whats the price diff between the electric type vrs stage right?

 

[brian]

whats the price diff between the electric type vrs stage right?

About $500 + a deep pan.
I like the stage right type for that reason alone! :biggrin:

Brian

 

[Alky V6]

I have some pertinent questions.

Is it possible to achieve good reaction times with the stage right type? If so, what is the recommended method?

How quick reacting is the electric style for the 200-4R?

Is the electric style for the 200-4R comparable (in terms of reaction time) to the best available for the 400 and PG?

Spiking torque loads will increase from the use of a transbrake. That is a given.

If the increase in torque loads is high enough to break driveshafts, u-joints, ring and pinions, final drive carriers (limited slip units), axles, then is it fair to say that a number of components in the transmission are also seeing this high load or is the transmission isolated from this increased load?

If the transmission is indeed seeing these higher loads, what components should be upgraded now, instead of waiting for them to break?

 

[norbs]

I know this doesn't answer any questions, but i don't like my stager right, because i can't shift into manual low. THe 2004r will sometimes stay in 2nd gear at a low speed if you dont coast down enough, and if you punch the gas it will not downshift to 1st sometimes, and the car feels lazy!

 

[Blazer406]

although a loud voice around here says the stage right doesnt work i beg to differ.

That's funny right there...... :wink:

 

[chris718]

price diff is 400 and ours does not require a deep pan.our original design used the low reverse and direct clutch applied in od range so it was an auto shift after release.we then made them with the direct applied on the button leaving in manual lo.i can do them either way but dont sell many.after redesigning the direct clutch apply circuit(as youve read recently here)we will be using the 3/2 control valve as the brake apply however dont have the time now to finish it up as we are busy with other things.it is unfortunate that we spend a month on a project devoting 4 or 5 hours a day to it and they dont sell.

 

[kjhansen]

I had a StageRight installed years ago. Its operation has been trouble free, although I've shredded three torque convertors since I put it in--taking the transmissions out in the process. Every time I've had the trans rebuilt they've failed to get the StageRight working and I've had to take it back and have it re-done. This time the rebuilder said one of the balls had been "practically pushed through the plate, what the **** you doin' with this thing?" I'm not a transmission guy, so I don't know what "plate" he's talking about, but the StageRight's not working again as he didn't put the balls in correctly, so the trans is going back. I just hope he didn't replace the valve body.
As far as reaction times go, you adjust. There is a difference, but it was an easy adjustment. The other thing was staging technique. I found that once you stage, if you drop it into first (activating the transbrake) then release the foot brake, you'll roll forward just a bit--enough to break the lights and come "un-staged" as it were. Keep your foot lightly on the brake. Build boost, slam the shifter into "3" and away ya go! Don't have anything loose sitting on your dash in front of you; it'll fly off and smack you in the face. ;-)
Keith

 

[Warp6]

what would happen if you're rolling and put it in first?

 

[norbs]

The back wheels will lock up solid, and is probably not a good thing for the tranny and the car behind you!

 

[Blazer406]

I had a StageRight installed years ago. Its operation has been trouble free, although I've shredded three torque convertors since I put it in--taking the transmissions out in the process.

What kind of torque converter....

What power level are you at? Combo?